Is welfare a drain on the country?

Trump did pay taxes because of loop holes found by former IRS employees.

Genius in doing this IMO. And what he did was completely legal. Just shows how smart the guy actually is.

And yes welfare drains the economy. Where do you think all your hard earned tax dollars actually going $466 billion dollars spent on "safety net" programs.

I dont see what you're trying to say.

Trump did pay taxes because of loop holes found by former IRS employees.

Genius in doing this IMO. And what he did was completely legal. Just shows how smart the guy actually is.

And yes welfare drains the economy. Where do you think all your hard earned tax dollars actually going $466 billion dollars spent on "safety net" programs.

I dont see what you're trying to say.

becuz wrote:

Payments to poor people are a drop in the bucket.

Corporate welfare is an ocean.

This.

Property owner wrote:

I would say that those who don't pay (net) taxes shouldn't be allowed to vote . . .

This ^ sounds like a really good idea. Feudalism, anyone?

Understand your role wrote:

Every Republican friend of mine complains that welfare recipients are a drain on our country because they take from the system and don't pay taxes.

Now we have learned that Donald Trump does not pay taxes.

If you are against welfare you must hate Trump.

Did you morans watch the Presidential debate or listen to any of Trump's speeches, from the very first one he gave when he announced his candidacy a year ago? His main point was government is full of incompetent and greedy bureaucrats and revolving doors which drives up expenses on public projects and military expenditures. These are the primary drains of money, the primary "drain on our country" to use your phrase. Has he ever mentioned welfare being a drain on our country? Did you hear it during the presidential debate? No? Then STFU you moran.

xcrunner6 wrote:

Trump did pay taxes because of loop holes found by former IRS employees.

Genius in doing this IMO. And what he did was completely legal. Just shows how smart the guy actually is.

And yes welfare drains the economy. Where do you think all your hard earned tax dollars actually going $466 billion dollars spent on "safety net" programs.

I dont see what you're trying to say.

So...one has to be a genius to use tax loopholes? Okaayyyyy...

Asdfghjkl wrote:

The government is a monopoly on physical force. Its sole alternative is to either use that force to protect individual safety or infringe on it.

Actually, no. Parents are entitled to beat their children as long as they use another name for it. Regardless of name it is certainly the use of physical force.

Asdfghjkl wrote:

HRE wrote:

Why should the government protect physical safety? How is that somehow moral while every other thing it does is not?

The government is a monopoly on physical force. Its sole alternative is to either use that force to protect individual safety or infringe on it.

What makes using either of these alternatives moral? And why is it an either/or choice? In any case, you can define many, probably most, of the things governments do as protecting public safety.

The other side of the welfare coin to the recipients is subsidy to landlord, store or product the welfare is spent / used .

Lets be clear: corporate welfare is the biggest drain on the economy. So are subsidies to big Oil, and endless money going into the military apparatus. Additionally, churches pay ZERO taxes, which adds up to over 100 billion/yr. aLone. I NEVER hear republicans mention these.

And yes, I despise Trump.

Ummmm WRONG. She asked Congress, who controls funding(not her) for additional funding. And republicans denied her.

Here is them on TV admitting it. Don't waste your time trying to pin it on her.

https://youtu.be/ofXKLWW3SyI

Indisputable figure is around 20% of your income tax goes to food stamps, welfare and Medicaid.

There is no such thing as Corporate Welfare. Its merely propaganda perpetrated on the uneducated by those who wish to achieve power by deception.

Understand your role wrote:

Every Republican friend of mine complains that welfare recipients are a drain on our country because they take from the system and don't pay taxes.

Now we have learned that Donald Trump does not pay taxes.

If you are against welfare you must hate Trump.

Foreigners legal and illegal take a lot of money and get to make their dreams comes true like owning businesses. Real Americans are turds flushed away.

Real Americans who are disabled and need welfare are suffering tremendously such as person with all levels of autism.

a bison! wrote:

I loose 44 cents on every dollar I make. If not for work and relationship would move to Florida or Texas in a heart beat. If I didn't have to pay so much in taxes I would continue to beef up my brokerage account in equities.

So you and your "relationship" both have better jobs in a high tax state than you could get in a low tax state? Hmm, how can that be? I thought low taxes solved everything!

Moo Goo wrote:

Indisputable figure is around 20% of your income tax goes to food stamps, welfare and Medicaid.

Huh??? Indisputable is a very big & precise word. You follow it with the word "around". LOL. I know food stamps are less than 2% of our budget (74 billion out of a 3.75 trillion budget).

Asdfghjkl wrote:

HRE wrote:

Why should the government protect physical safety? How is that somehow moral while every other thing it does is not?

The government is a monopoly on physical force. Its sole alternative is to either use that force to protect individual safety or infringe on it.

The government does not have a monopoly on physical force. The Second Amendment guarantees the rights of the PEOPLE to protect themselves from the tyranny of government.

Trump paying zero taxes just means that the government gives him money from people that pay taxes. Basically we're all subsidizing Trump and other government parasites like him.

Fair question yes. Does Santa Clara's $2B free welfare for the San Francisco 49ers benefit society?