Deeja Younquist a Drug Cheat

Factfinder.com wrote:

How does someone like Deeja who wasn't really a top runner afford EPO? I thought the stuff was expensive..

A couple of years ago, I did an internet search and found ten vials for $500. While I don't know whether ten vials is a ten-day supply or a ten-month supply, that doesn't sound particularly expensive when balanced with the improvement and increased earnings. It's one road race!

Deena seems like a fine girl. I'm sure this is all a misundewring.

misunderstanding

yeah, what happened there?

that wasn't just some ordinary typo. have a seizure?

Interesting, very interesting. Wejo, YOU like to gamble right?? Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought I understood that you are quite poker player. So let's see if I have this right: we have a guy who KNOWS that EPO can only be detected in one's system "a few days after taking the drug", and who likes to gamble. By your own logic, wejo, I would say you are suspect.

Hmmmm......wejo knows there are "ways to mask" EPO, but then quickly adds "which I haven't heard of...". Interesting.

Have you been tetsted before wejo? I would assume so. And if you have, and you passed, what does it mean??? According to you, A BIG FAT NOTHING.

Wejo, based on your own logic, and the logic of many accusers, we have no reason to believe you are clean......here is that logic:

1) you know that the tests can be beaten easily

2) it only takes a small gamble to pull it off, and from what I know, you are a gambler

3) your negative tests mean nothing.

4) your father is VERY CLOSE to the most powerful man in the world, therefore, you could likely get just about anything covered up, especially a measly running drug violation

5) you yourself keep repeating how you had ZERO talent, and ONLY ran 30:00 for 10k in college, but then.....a few years later are running 28:00!! I am sure you have rasied your own eyebrows at similar improvements of others.

SO........obviously I mostly just giving wejo a hard time, and I know that this thread is about a convicted drug cheat. BUT......this game of "clean tests prove nothing" and therefore "everyone is assumed guilty" should be APPLIED TO EVERYONE. Wejo, you are convicting yourself in such a game. And Rojo once played the game of "look at my stats that show how much WR's have improved since EPO came on the scene, thus, the WR holders MUST be cheaters". OK, again, lets play that game with WEJO's improvement.

A dangerous game, play it wisely.

(and also of interest is that fact that wejo once posted a Dr's testimony, one of the inventors in fact, on the EPO drug test. Interestingly the Dr said something to the effect that a false positive was "nearly" or "almost" impossible. When wejo quoted him on the boards, he conveniently LEFT OUT the word (not sure of the exact qualifier) "nearly/almost." And of course later on it appears that Bernie Lagat did INDEED have a false positive inflicted on him. And for those of you who still think that he cheated, look at how great he has done since then. You REALLY think he would have gone right back on the juice after dodging a bullet like he did??? No way, that's not gambling, that's suicide. I say he remained clean, and did just as well after that test as before as indication of it. Yes, clean tests don't mean a lot, but I guarantee you that someone somewhere has been busted in either running or cycling who was innocent, and that is just as sad.)

Observant! wrote:

Did anyone notice that Eddy received his ban from the date of the test in Jan 2004 and Ms. Youngquist received a ban starting over 9 months after her test in March? This is interesting. Eddy in affect has the shortest ban in the history of the sport and the woman has to go by the rules. This sounds like discrimination against the quiet lady.

Observant!

The arbitration award discusses this issue. Essentially, the arbitrators in Youngquist's case agreed with USADA that the arbitrators in Eddy's case were wrong. The little leprechaun got lucky.

The NCAA story you guys tell seems odd to me as my experience is quite different. I go to Marquette and when Brianna Dahm was not injured and racing, she was tested at least 2 times in one season, and a couple other times during my first couple years here. I wonder why there would be such large discrepencies.

by the way she ran 10:00 for the steeple, so obviously not a slouch.

Sir Lance-alot wrote:

And of course later on it appears that Bernie Lagat did INDEED have a false positive inflicted on him. And for those of you who still think that he cheated, look at how great he has done since then. You REALLY think he would have gone right back on the juice after dodging a bullet like he did??? No way, that's not gambling, that's suicide. I say he remained clean, and did just as well after that test as before as indication of it. Yes, clean tests don't mean a lot, but I guarantee you that someone somewhere has been busted in either running or cycling who was innocent, and that is just as sad.)

But wasn't Lagat cleared by his "B" sample while Eddy and Deeja both produced hot "A" and "B's"?

Did you know:

USADA tested (or requested other entities to test) the following athletes between 10-01-00 and 9-30-04:

Meb Keflezighi: 19 times (4 in 2001, 5 in 2002, 3 in 2003, 7 in 2004)

Deena Kastor: 23 times (4 in 2001, 5 in 2002, 5 in 2003, 9 in 2004)

Alan Culpepper: 18 times (5 each in 2001 thru 2003, 3 in 2004)

Regina Jacobs: 21 times (8 in 2001, 5 in 2002, 7 in 2003, 1 in 2004)

Colleen De Reuck: 16 times (4 in 2002, 4 in 2003, 8 in 2004)

David Krummenacker: 15 times (3 in 2001, 2 in 2002, 7 in 2003, 3 in 2004)

Jen Rhines: 15 times (4 in 2001, 3 in 2002, 8 in 2004)

Stacy Dragila: 21 times (8 in 2001, 2 in 2002, 6 in 2003, 5 in 2004 )

Marion Jones: 17 times (2 in 2000, 2 in 2001, 4 in 2002, 3 in 2003, 6 in 2004)

Tim Montgomery: 9 times (4 in 2001, 3 in 2002, 2 in 2004)

Kelli White: 11 times (5 in 2001, 4 in 2002, 2 in 2004)

Maurice Greene 14 times (2 in 2001, 3 in 2002, 4 in 2003, 5 in 2004)

Shawn Crawford: 22 times (4 in 2001, 3 in 2002, 8 in 2003, 7 in 2004)

I'd love to see the testing history of MLB, NBA, & NFL "stars" during the same time frame. My guess is that WEJO has been drug tested more times than Barry Bonds!

Just for the hell of it I looked up and found:

Weldon Johnson: 5 times (once each in 2001 thru 2003 and twice in 2004)

Teddy Mitchell: 2 times(once each in 2002 and 2004)

Eddy Hellubuck: 5 times (once each in 2001 & 2003 and 3 times in 2004)

Deeja Youngquist: 4 times (all in 2004)

Personally, I think the testing methods leave a lot to be desired (in terms of testing for the newest doping practices), but all in all T&F does a relatively good job of "trying" to catch the cheaters when compared to other sports.

I know for a fact that Deeja reads these boards. Let's hear what she has to say.

Why did she do it? Was it ever worth it? How did it feel when she set mind-numbing PRs? Did she feel as like she earned it or did she feel like a fraud? Who introduced her to EPO-- Teddy or Eddy? Deeja doesn't owe me or anyone these answers but if she doesn't want to be treated like a pariah for the rest of her running career--assuming she wants to have one--she'd be wise to come clean about a few aspects of her life as a drug cheat.

Deeja was an amateur cheater that got busted. So was Eddy. They deserve what they get, but they are simply the visible tip of a large iceberg.

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That's fascinating, ZZ. I didn't know that database existed. So what's really troubling to me about that is that not only are these athletes being tested, but they're testing clean OVER AND OVER AND OVER, even in the case of obvious and convicted dopers. I refuse to believe that Regina or Kelli White only took drugs once and happened to get caught that one time. For anyone who wants to look up other athletes, it's at

http://www.usantidoping.org/what/stats/history.aspx

Yes, our frequency of testing is fantastic, but what about the efficacy?

What other US track athletes have been convicted of doping? Let's look up how many times they were tested. Scary stuff.

To see the improvement that EPO + an eating disorder will accomplish, consider that Deeja was a 35:00 10,000 runner at the UW, then later debuted in the marathon on Teddy's "program" in 2:28, essentially that same pace from 10K to 42K. Nice work if you can get away with it.

It is obvious that testing doesn't work. It is merely a tool that serves as nothing more than to foster the illusion that progress is being made. As someone once put it, never mistake motion for action.

The BALCO scandal occurred because someone was willing to send in a syringe. This is how the other cheaters will get busted if they ever do. Once gene doping comes out, it will be over with.

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Wejo doesn't know didley about the technical aspects of the testing, and he doesn't care. He's a crusader. That's why he started this thread. He figures the best way to clean up the sport is to pillory the cheaters. And he's probably right. The prospect of public humiliation can be a powerful deterrent. I just wish people like wejo (and Paula Radcliffe) were more curious about some of irregularities that have surfaced regarding the EPO test. The odds that the Lagat fiasco was not an isolated case are sickeningly high.

Sonny Boy wrote:

Wejo doesn't know didley about the technical aspects of the testing, and he doesn't care. He's a crusader. That's why he started this thread. He figures the best way to clean up the sport is to pillory the cheaters. And he's probably right. The prospect of public humiliation can be a powerful deterrent. I just wish people like wejo (and Paula Radcliffe) were more curious about some of irregularities that have surfaced regarding the EPO test. The odds that the Lagat fiasco was not an isolated case are sickeningly high.

teddy....how was Ireland?

U.S. TRACK & FIELD ATHLETE RECEIVES TWO-YEAR SUSPENSION FOR POSITIVE r-EPO TEST

COLORADO SPRINGS, Colo. (March 2, 2005)

The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) announced today the decision by an independent three-member arbitration panel from the American Arbitration Association (AAA)/North American Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS) that Deeja Youngquist of Albuquerque, N.M., an athlete in the sport of track and field, has committed a doping violation and imposed the minimum two-year suspension for a first time offense.

Youngquist, 27, tested positive for recombinant human Erythropoietin (r-EPO) during an out-of-competition test conducted by USADA on March 16, 2004, in advance of the 2004 U.S. Olympic Team Trials in the Women's Marathon. As a synthetic hormone, r-EPO stimulates the body’s production of red blood cells, thereby, increasing oxygen transport and aerobic power. r-EPO is a prohibited substance under the rules of the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF), the international federation for the sport of track and field, which has adopted the World Anti-Doping Code.

Youngquist, one of the top marathoners in the U.S., did not contest the validity of the UCLA laboratory’s application of the test in the analysis of her urine sample and received the minimum two-year suspension to take effect December 4, 2004, the date she accepted and began serving her provisional suspension. Additionally, Youngquist forfeits all competitive results and winnings since March 16, 2004, the date of the test, including her eighth place finish in the Olympic Team Trials.

USA Track & Field, the national governing body for the sport in the United States, will carry out the sanction.

USADA is responsible for managing the testing and results management process for athletes in the U.S. Olympic and Paralympic Movement. USADA is equally dedicated to preserving the integrity of sport through research initiatives and educational programs.

Right!

I just might sue in small claims court for some money she stole from my wife at a road race. Anybody know how I would go about proving she was on EPO at the time?