Pics?
Pics?
Anyone who believes what Martinez claims she does in training is a moron.
BMart is a liar wrote:
Anyone who believes what Martinez claims she does in training is a moron.
I think anyone who believes what athletes say today in general are morons. You can't trust people who talk about how "post workout protein shakes" are the key to their recovery. As for abs, if a woman has ripped abs it's a tell tale sign she's probably using drugs. Sure, women can become that lean on starvation diets but they won't be running fast. You're going to have be on some extra sauce to be that lean and still function.
Curious girl wrote:
Kate Grace, Jenny Simpson, Shannon Rowbury: all 8-packs.
Brenda? Looks like cookie dough.
Cookie dough..? Seriously.
Holocaust skinny 6/8 packs look absolutely gross on women. As people have said, that sort of definition does not correlate 100% with speed.
You should clearly keep on eye on your potential for a crippling eating or body image disorder 😉
(Brenda being fast while not being a disgusting skeleton is part of what makes her so attractive.)
Can't believe no one has asked wrote:
Pics?
They have been posted. Try to keep up...
Curious girl wrote:
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Brenda looks fabulous! The others: yikes!
She's on her husbands diet, look to him for the answer, pops guy will never see his abs ever again!
to answer the original question...because she is running on hate
JoJoCo wrote:
to answer the original question...because she is running on hate
Hate towards whom?
I hope you don't coach!!!
Curious girl wrote:
Kate Grace, Jenny Simpson, Shannon Rowbury: all 8-packs.
Brenda? Looks like cookie dough.
I am a female runner who doesn't really do and core work, but lots of people have told me it would help. Then I look at Martinez and I think, maybe it's not so important.
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"Abs" hypertrophy like any other muscle group. The ability to see any muscle's definition is determined by the size of the muscle and the lack of bodyfat between the muscle and the skin. You could have two people with the same bodyfat % yet very different looks. A130lb distance runner with 9% body fat is going to look soft next to a 200lb athlete of the same height with 9% body fat.
Alan
Core work and "abs" are overrated..
the truth seeker wrote:
As for abs, if a woman has ripped abs it's a tell tale sign she's probably using drugs. Sure, women can become that lean on starvation diets but they won't be running fast. You're going to have be on some extra sauce to be that lean and still function.
^this. Also, her husband is a fatty, so that contributes to carrying extra body mass.
Mind the social component. wrote:
the truth seeker wrote:As for abs, if a woman has ripped abs it's a tell tale sign she's probably using drugs. Sure, women can become that lean on starvation diets but they won't be running fast. You're going to have be on some extra sauce to be that lean and still function.
^this. Also, her husband is a fatty, so that contributes to carrying extra body mass.
That's crazy. Many girls who have that very very skinny body type have that BOTH because of training and natural build. A girl does not need a thyroid problem to be that skinny. Look at any college cross country team. Considering those women train less than the pros, it is very plausible that all those crazy six packs are not a product of drugs.
Brenda is the only prominent latina runner I can think of. Maybe her fat is distrubuted differently. Maybe she needs to maintain a certain amount of fat. IT should be noted that very few of these mentioned six packs are "turtle shell" six packs, so they are very easily covered by fat. Exceptions to rules exist that aren't explained by drugs.
well...... wrote:
Brenda Martinez is extremely talented, and extremely hard working
From:
http://fittish.deadspin.com/why-the-800-comes-down-to-hunters-and-the-hunted-1699308516"She reaches a peak of 80 miles per week and told RunnersWorld she’s upped her long run to 14 miles. Of course, that’s during base training. Closer to 800 competition, she’ll drop down to 70 to 75 miles per week, which is still nearly double what most sprint-based programs call for. "
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"She’s the Tina Turner of the 800, is Martinez. She likes to do things nice and rough, e.g. 10 miles at 5:55 pace, mile repeats in 4:50, and this killer— eight x 1000 meters in 2:50 to 3:00 minutes, with three minutes recovery between each, and a fast 400 at the end of the workout for good measure. "
I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest this is vastly more important than how her body tissues are distributed, or how many planks or crunches she does.
Exactly.
Would you rather have abs that stick out…or would you rather be the Tina Turner of ALL of Track and Field?
She likes to do things nice and rough. Oh my.
Go Brenda "Tina Turner" Martinez!
Alan Bennet wrote:
Lot of ppl here basically saying the same thing, yet somehow finding a way to disagree with each other.
@Curious girl - Core work is important, just keep it in perspective. If you are doing *nothing* then adding a little bit will obviously help. If situps don't appeal to you, I can recommend yoga. All the top runners do plenty of core work. Then again they have all day and can't use the time to run more. I think the six-pack thing is just fashionable. It's not necessary to be cut like that in order to run fast.
Pretty much everything you said here is wrong.
It's not true that "all the top runners" do core work. It's pretty much a waste of time considering that running itself is "core work," and a set of squats will engage your core significantly more than any dedicated core work. Most of it probably won't do any harm (like you said, pros have all day), but some types could be problematic. Yoga, for example, tends to lead to increases in flexibility that decrease running economy.
6-pack abs, on the other hand, is not a fashion statement. It's a sign of low body fat, and not carrying around extra body fat is without a doubt one of the most important things that elites have to focus on. It indisputably makes a huge and measurable difference.
To the OP, it's a bit of a mystery. There is a genetic component to where fat is stored, so it's possible to have very low body fat but still not have abs, nevertheless, I find it hard to believe that B-mart couldn't be faster if she were leaner. It's true that some people find, through trial and error, that they have a hard time staying healthy when they're very lean, but usually those people still cut down for peak races.
800 dude wrote:
Alan Bennet wrote:Lot of ppl here basically saying the same thing, yet somehow finding a way to disagree with each other.
@Curious girl - Core work is important, just keep it in perspective. If you are doing *nothing* then adding a little bit will obviously help. If situps don't appeal to you, I can recommend yoga. All the top runners do plenty of core work. Then again they have all day and can't use the time to run more. I think the six-pack thing is just fashionable. It's not necessary to be cut like that in order to run fast.
Pretty much everything you said here is wrong.
It's not true that "all the top runners" do core work. It's pretty much a waste of time considering that running itself is "core work," and a set of squats will engage your core significantly more than any dedicated core work. Most of it probably won't do any harm (like you said, pros have all day), but some types could be problematic. Yoga, for example, tends to lead to increases in flexibility that decrease running economy.
6-pack abs, on the other hand, is not a fashion statement. It's a sign of low body fat, and not carrying around extra body fat is without a doubt one of the most important things that elites have to focus on. It indisputably makes a huge and measurable difference.
To the OP, it's a bit of a mystery. There is a genetic component to where fat is stored, so it's possible to have very low body fat but still not have abs, nevertheless, I find it hard to believe that B-mart couldn't be faster if she were leaner. It's true that some people find, through trial and error, that they have a hard time staying healthy when they're very lean, but usually those people still cut down for peak races.
I found your post alarming.
I do a lot of yoga.
Do you think that the increased flexibility from yoga could lead to decreased efficiency at my ankle and foot during the ground contact/pushoff phase of my stride which could then lead to a decrease of running economy?
Do you think yoga could be the major cause of my slow running?
Unlike many (most) of her competitors, Beautiful Brenda
- does not have an eating disorder
- is not on drugs
She looks like a fit women, not an emaciated doped-up freak.
Her body fat % is probably the same as any other elite female. Look at her arms and hips, she's still skinny and lean by runners standards. Her lack of an 8-pack is most likely due to the shape and size of the muscle bellies and water retention (i.e.: she's not dehydrated).
Alan
Her abs are in that core of hers. This is 100% certainLook at hichem el geurrouj next to Bernard lagat and tell me how lagat doesn't have the world record
Curious girl wrote:
Kate Grace, Jenny Simpson, Shannon Rowbury: all 8-packs.
Brenda? Looks like cookie dough.
I am a female runner who doesn't really do and core work, but lots of people have told me it would help. Then I look at Martinez and I think, maybe it's not so important.
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