no blocks wrote:
Gss wrote:I don't get why you all think this is such a big deal.
For one thing, the guys who like to won't be able to go out of blocks (not allowed if you aren't starting in-lane).
What are you talking about? None of these guys use blocks. Off the top of my head I can't think of any elite 800 runners who do.
Does not running lanes void times for qualifying purposes? Or record purposes?
swaglord wrote:
Lol this is sooooooooo dumb. If I were Berian I would be so pissed right now. Any of those other 5 guys could completely screw up his strategy. If Berian was on the outside, he'd have a nice advantage.
One of Johnson/Loxsom/Sowinski will probably try to do it. They'll blast out the first 70m and get in front of Berian, in between lane 1/2. Then he'll have to make a pass on them between 100m and 200m, which will use up just enough energy. Then the last 200m, he'll feel a little more uncomfortable than usual. This will be enough for either Sowinski or Murphy to grab the win.
Moral of the story: eff you Craig Engel's coach being an insider (If I were Engels i'd do the same thing though)
Of course it hurts Boris most - would have been in lanes if he was still a Nike athlete ...
I will be surprised if any of the 9 guys actually running this ever state this decision had an effect on the outcome.
Another Option wrote:
I will be surprised if any of the 9 guys actually running this ever state this decision had an effect on the outcome.
They all know not to poke the sleeping bear that USATF is.
In the end they go with 5 inside and 4 outside.
Again I ask when did the athletes find.
Or maybe they realize it's not an issue... or they simply don't whine about things they can't control.
We have spoken to Erik Sowkinski after the race. He was disappointed in his race and while making it clear he didn't want it to be viewed as an excuse, he strongly criticized USATF for not running the race out of lanes.
He said that 5 coaches protested and asked USATF to run the race out of lanes but they refused. He also questioned why once they decided to run it out of a stagger thath they didn't either do a stagger of 5 and 4 or 3 staggers.
He was in the stagger of 6 which obviously was the worse. Full interview here:
asdffdsfdsfhjhjhjhfdsfdsfdsfds wrote:
$10 says Jock and Engels battle for DFL in this final. Neither should be there. I'm rooting for Engels to be DFL since he never should have been given a ticket into the final!
$10 plz
asdffdsfdsfhjhjhjhfdsfdsfdsfds wrote:
$10 says Jock and Engels battle for DFL in this final. Neither should be there. I'm rooting for Engels to be DFL since he never should have been given a ticket into the final!
Hi.
Instead of an interview with someone that didn't finish top three, how about at least posting the results?
Gss wrote:
I don't get why you all think this is such a big deal.
Agree! Lots of these guys have run 1500's and they all bunch up at the 100m mark anyway. The 800 bunches up at the 200. It's the finish line that matters.
8th and 9th at 600 got 3rd and 4th. Shut the fvxk up sowinski. You lost to a college 1500 guy
The true fact maniac wrote:
8th and 9th at 600 got 3rd and 4th. Shut the fvxk up sowinski. You lost to a college 1500 guy
who made the semis at 800 last year in beijing. Try harder.
rojo wrote:
We have spoken to Erik Sowkinski after the race. He was disappointed in his race and while making it clear he didn't want it to be viewed as an excuse, he strongly criticized USATF for not running the race out of lanes.
This is what my eyes noticed at the gun, Sowkinski putting in much more effort than the those around him to go nowhere.
At the same time, as a coach I would have been sure to have it drummed into my athlete's head that the top 3 would be determined, by talent, confidence, & poise, which my athlete had above others, not lanes and staggers. I must assume that all the coaches did this.
The true fact maniac wrote:
He won't be back in 2020. No shot. He's 30. KYS.
He's 26. Duane Solomon ran 1:45 this year at age 31. Wouldn't say he is "DONE" quite yet.
He's done as done can be as far as the Olympics are concerned. Add brazier to the mix in 2020. He's done. So done.
asdffdsfdsfhjhjhjhfdsfdsfdsfds wrote:
$10 says Jock and Engels battle for DFL in this final. Neither should be there. I'm rooting for Engels to be DFL since he never should have been given a ticket into the final!
Make that $10 check out to:
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The true fact maniac wrote:
He's done as done can be as far as the Olympics are concerned. Add brazier to the mix in 2020. He's done. So done.
So you're saying he's done?
I initially thought it was the fault of Montano, then changed to Martinez based on what people havecsais, but after researching the video it's pretty clear. Wilson dies not move until about a second after Martinez flails. Martinez trips, with Montano close behind her and her arm appears to hit Wilson, causing her to flinch. Rogers makes it hard to see what happened between Martinez and Montano, but Martinez was tripped from behind for sure, and the only person directly behind her was Montano. For absolutely sure, Martinez didn't cause this. And Montana's story doesn't check out. Wilson said she felt a clip, which was Martinez reaction to being clipped from behind. Elementary my dear Watson.