Well. Now we have to brainstorm new ideas for this ridiculous situation.
Maybe ethio could overthrow the Ethiopian government and we could then get the decision changed in time to have Kenenisa Bekele in all his speed of light brilliance running in Rio.
Thanks coach Canova
Coach quick question:
We both know that Mo Farah is gonna retain his double gold status , can you confirm that ?
Thanks
jago wrote:
Yeah that english is far too good to be the real Renato (no offense). It's a real shame Kenesia couldn't have a shot at the marathon in Rio, I would like to see him race Mo Farah in the 10K but he's been there done that, I want to see him push the boundaries with the Marathon now. The Ethiopia committee obviously don't' want to take a risk with Bekele knowing is injury history what with the amount of DNF last time for the Ethiopian team.
Why would someone go to such length to write an insightful post in Renato's style, not trolling at all if they weren't Renato. That's him. Renato's english has improved in the past few years. Compare recent posts to stuff from like ten years ago.
Anyways, the more I think about it, the more I think you're absolutely right. Even if Ethiopia doesn't really have potential medalists in the marathon, they can't risk dnfs. The only thing more embarassing than a Kenyan sweep would be a Kenyan sweep and 3 Ethiopian dnfs. A runner of Bekele's capability, if he is not going to medal, highly likely against a strong Kenyan team including a runner who run just a few seconds over the world record and probably another strong east african or 2 from uganda or tanzania or eritrea, has to consider dropping out to save himself for a fall marathon.
If a fit Bekele is truly in shape to challenge Biwott, he'll be able to run a 10,000 fast enough for selection, but Bekele has to decide does he want another Olympics or want to focus entirely on a fast race in Berlin (or Chicago or Frankfurt). Triple Olympic gold in the 10,000 would cement Bekele as the best 10,000 runner of all time, and with the world record, there is no question that Farah couldn't take this title, no matter how many golds and worlds he won. On the other hand, a marathon world record would cement Bekele as the best distance runner of all time, but the current world record seems almost inhuman, 2:02:57. If anyone could break that, I'd expect a double world record holder to have a shot, but Bekele seems better at the shorter distances, as he's never broken 1 hour in the half. He can't show the dominant form he had when he ran away in every 5000 and 10,000 (besides that one time Mottram beat him) and trounced the field time and time again in world xc when he's only racing a couple times a year. To me it seems like Bekele's best bet is to race more frequently at shorter stuff and try for the 10,000 team, then run Frankfurt for a fast time, try to win, and use something like Great North as a tune up in between. And go for a world record at London in the spring. Kipchoge ran 2:03:05, so we know a wr is probably possible there if the leaders don't go through 25 or 30 k at a 25 or 30 k world record.
rjm33 wrote:
Well. Now we have to brainstorm new ideas for this ridiculous situation.
Maybe ethio could overthrow the Ethiopian government and we could then get the decision changed in time to have Kenenisa Bekele in all his speed of light brilliance running in Rio.
Bekele will run Rio. End of discussion!
edward teach wrote:
Even if Ethiopia doesn't really have potential medalists in the marathon, they can't risk dnfs. The only thing more embarassing than a Kenyan sweep would be a Kenyan sweep and 3 Ethiopian dnfs.
What sweep with crusty parliamentarian Wesley Korir on the team?
Anyway, Bekele's performance in Berlin will tell if the Ethiopians were wrong not to pick him. Personally, I think, barring major disaster, Kipchoge and Biwott are a lock for gold and silver in Rio. Everyone else, including Bekele, would be competing for Bronze. And if the heat and humidity is anything like Mombasa, we know how that turned out for Bekele who was, then, at his absolute peak.
Jefe in the CO wrote:
RenatoCanova wrote:It's not crazy to think Kenenisa, with the full preparation without big injuries till Rio, could be the ONLY athlete able to challenge Kipchoge for Gold.
Ummmm...ever heard of Galen Rupp?
DNF
Ethio wrote:
Bekele will run Rio. End of discussion!
Of course he will bandit the Olympic marathon. Who would have the guts to pull him off the course. After he beats all those other clowns the federation selected, he can take his stopwatch and throw it over the wall of the stadium in celebration.
Rjm33, I was the "Real" Renato Canova. What happened is that I wrote my name all together, without space in between, so it became different from the one registered.
And you, good investigator, were not able to see the particular !
Ridiculo !
Go rjm 33 !
The IOC should give a Wild Card to such brilliant talents, as long as they have a qualifying time and want to participate. That way they can save the sport from embarrassment by political theatrics.
Bekele is tenth one the Q time list with a 2:06:36
I know he has the Q time. The IOC just needs to formulate into their laws, rules and regulations an accommodation for every top athlete who find themselves in Bekele's predicament.
troof of the matter wrote:
Bekele is tenth one the Q time list with a 2:06:36
Renato Canova wrote:
Rjm33, I was the "Real" Renato Canova. What happened is that I wrote my name all together, without space in between, so it became different from the one registered.
And you, good investigator, were not able to see the particular !
Ridiculo !
Go rjm 33 !
I hope you noticed I said you were absolutely correct about Bekele.
I thought it was a very good impersonation but I did not think it had enough CAPITAL letters for you. The depth of knowledge displayed in your post would be extremely hard to duplicate. People do try to impersonate you here but it is not effective.
Now I have determined that you do a good impression of yourself and that
Coach Nicole gets really mad and yells "Ridiculo!" a lot at his runners... and "MODULATION!" is also used a lot.
Do you have any update on Bekele for a poster named doot doot?
How can we make sure the incomparable Kenenisa Bekele is running at the Rio Olympics?
Go the 'Real' Coach Renato Canova!
Kenenisa isnot interested to run 10000m on track. He already won two Olympic Gold Medals, and has the WR, so for him the only stimulus for running on track could be to win again, and to try to improve his WR.
This is not possible without a lot of training sessions of specific speed, using spikes, and this situation is far from the technical choices of the best athlete of the World, who had big tendon problems (and calves problems) using spikes in the last 7 years.
If Kenenisa can't run Olympics, probably he can try the WR in Berlin.
This doesn't change the situation that Ethiopian Federation, not selecting Kenenisa in the Team, can act like Japaneses samurai when used to kill themselves making "karakiri" for the shame of some mistake, with the difference they did this for a sense of "honour", while Ethiopian Federation can do this for conclamated unknowledge of the real value of the athletes.
I hate all of the impersonation on this site! It makes us all so distrustful!
rjm 33 wrote:
I hate all of the impersonation on this site! It makes us all so distrustful!
It's a diversionary tactic to keep focus away from the truly corrupt, those like Coe and Radcliffe.
I would rather see Bekele take on Mo Farah in the 10K.
The marathon is too much of a hit and miss.
That's it. I'm not gonna watch the Olympics.
rjm33 hit again! less suspicion more trust bro.
Bekele will bandit the race, run at sub-2h pace and drop out at 100m from the finish line.
RenatoCanova wrote:
One of the problems is that it's not possible to have any selection in one race head to head. We speak about athletes having appearance fees for starting between 100.000 and 400.000 USD, and it's not possible to organize a race for selecting the best. For example, the idea to have Kenyan trials in Kenya in February for free could be a good technical choice, but clearly impossible to follow, since nobody in Kenya prefers to run a race of selection for free in altitude, risking to stay out of the team, refusing to have 300,000 USD of appearance fee for running London.
I understand this completely but it is a similar issue with the US athletes.
The money may not be quite as high, but the top US marathoners are also giving up potential good appearance money in order to participate in the US marathon trials.
I think Meb has missed a lot of money over the years running US trials and skipping either a fall or spring marathon, sometimes both to do the US Trials plus the Olympics.
I think Kenya and Ethiopia could each come up with a time and location (maybe European) where they could hold their trials concurrent with an open race that would generate good revenue to pay the top entrants well enough to help them.
The Prefontaine 10,000m Trials some years ago was not that bad of an idea.