Duane Solomon ran 10.84 and 21.96 earlier this year?

Metric Miller wrote:

There certainly will be some 800m guys that can break 11 from the blocks, it isn't common though. I'm thinking maybe Amos who ran 44.1 in the Beijing 4x400m, he certainly has the speed.

Like someone said, Curtis Beach broke 11 and ran 1:47.

The argument before about 1500m guys is different. 400/800 guys like Amos and Berian are fast. Over 200m Amos has run 21.34. That strongly suggests sub 11. Even if you say he would run a faster 200m than 2x his 100m, he will still break 11, 21.34 ÷ 2 = 10.67. He has a lot of time to play with there.

Very few will break 11 but there will be a few that can break 22.

I know Coe used a series of 10 X 200m as a good indicator of where he was in his build up. If memory serves, they were all around 24/25 sec with about 30 -40 sec recovery between each. He used to go all out on the last one. His best was 21.7, which he did in 81 and managed again at the Europeans in 86.

I'm not sure if he had a rolling start, but considering it was at the end of a training session, I would imagine he could run sub 22 easily in a one off race from blocks in peak form. While I imagine that's not unique for elite 800 guys, I can't imagine many sub 3:30 1500guys being capable of running 21.* for 200m.

As for sub 11 100m from blocks, I would think that this would be difficult but not impossible for 2 lap runners.

coach d wrote:

Bolt is not claiming that he ran a fast 800 time in his imagination. But distance runners keep trying to make believe they're fast like sprinters, when in actual fact they'd be scared to even line up against us. And this fraud of Duane Solomon is just an indication of what a fraud the distance media/fan base really is. If you guys really want to get your a$$es kicked, I think you can figure out where to find us.

Calm down, psycho.

Celebrity Death Match: Duane Solomon vs. Duane Solomon! How about a 300m race featuring those two?

Farah and especially the Brownlees sandbagged that one to avoid triggering WADA.

Speaker of Hard Truths wrote:

runnerdnerd wrote:

I'm sick of this age old discussion claiming that no 800m runner ever could have run under 11 seconds FAT.

I'm sick of discussions claiming I cannot break 11 either, but reality doesn't care what you're sick of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJMIwlQB-28

Im from a distance orientated state. last year 10.85 was on par with 1:55.7

I bet Usain Bolt could run that.

ironically according Milesplit. currently nation #120 is 10.85 and 1:55.77

sorry last thing:

I would agree with a miler thats say 3;50 not hitting sub 11. The thing is to run a 1:43.xx 800 you need a $#!+ load of speed.

so an elite 800 guy is going to do some form of top end speed training. Hasnt Salazar said Rupp even works that?

now 100 guys wont do much long distance training.

when i trained for the 4/8 my coach had me doing block work, top end speed work raced me in the 1/2. none of our 100 guys ever raced the 8.

old fat guy wrote:

sorry last thing:

I would agree with a miler thats say 3;50 not hitting sub 11. The thing is to run a 1:43.xx 800 you need a $#!+ load of speed.

so an elite 800 guy is going to do some form of top end speed training. Hasnt Salazar said Rupp even works that?

now 100 guys wont do much long distance training.

when i trained for the 4/8 my coach had me doing block work, top end speed work raced me in the 1/2. none of our 100 guys ever raced the 8.

You better stop before coach d(bag) has a stroke.

Sorry. When I wasnt old and fat I did run sub 11(FAT). I was NOT anything special. I was a solid D2 guy. I just find it hard that a solid D2 800 guy that was considered SLOW for a 100 guy would smoke an Olympic 800 guy in a 100.

old fat guy wrote:

Sorry. When I wasnt old and fat I did run sub 11(FAT). I was NOT anything special. I was a solid D2 guy. I just find it hard that a solid D2 800 guy that was considered SLOW for a 100 guy would smoke an Olympic 800 guy in a 100.

You were running the wrong event.

old fat guy wrote:

sorry last thing:

I would agree with a miler thats say 3;50 not hitting sub 11. The thing is to run a 1:43.xx 800 you need a $#!+ load of speed.

so an elite 800 guy is going to do some form of top end speed training. Hasnt Salazar said Rupp even works that?

now 100 guys wont do much long distance training.

when i trained for the 4/8 my coach had me doing block work, top end speed work raced me in the 1/2. none of our 100 guys ever raced the 8.

Wake up, Nick Symmonds says he can't even break 12

train like a sprinter? wrote:

old fat guy wrote:

Sorry. When I wasnt old and fat I did run sub 11(FAT). I was NOT anything special. I was a solid D2 guy. I just find it hard that a solid D2 800 guy that was considered SLOW for a 100 guy would smoke an Olympic 800 guy in a 100.

You were running the wrong event.

Running 10:89 would not make the alternate on our D2 4x100 that did NOT make nationals. misplaced or not, I was not going to race sprints very often. Plus I liked the 8 more.

right now 10.99 is #225 on Milesplit. same as 1:57.02.

so a sub 11 is the same level of awesomeness as a 1:57.0. So again it is not really that special.

Derpmaster wrote:

http://www.flotrack.org/video/792141-workout-wednesday-cas-loxsom-and-nick-symmonds-sprint-workout

It's true bud, don't let the butthurt flow too deeply

The butthurt guy. Defector.

Derek O'Connor ran 10.58 in 1985 as a 20year old. He later ran NCAA for Iona (I think) and made the 400m final , his Pb over 400 was 45.7, in his later years he reinvented himself as an 800m runner and ran 1:48.4. He probably didn't have the same top end speed then though. Obviously enough he also ran sub 21 for 200m.

old fat guy wrote:

right now 10.99 is #225 on Milesplit. same as 1:57.02.

so a sub 11 is the same level of awesomeness as a 1:57.0. So again it is not really that special.

What an idiotic post. Solomon is a 1:42 guy. That is within 2% of the WR.

So his sub-11 is on the "same level of awesomeness" as a 9.78 100m guy running sub-1:57. AKA pretty damn awesome. (Let me know when that happens, genius.)

rupp-certified salaadbar wrote:

old fat guy wrote:

right now 10.99 is #225 on Milesplit. same as 1:57.02.

so a sub 11 is the same level of awesomeness as a 1:57.0. So again it is not really that special.

What an idiotic post. Solomon is a 1:42 guy. That is within 2% of the WR.

So his sub-11 is on the "same level of awesomeness" as a 9.78 100m guy running sub-1:57. AKA pretty damn awesome. (Let me know when that happens, genius.)

Let me know when 1:42 man Solomon runs sub-11 first?

Irish running fan wrote:

Derek O'Connor ran 10.58 in 1985 as a 20year old. He later ran NCAA for Iona (I think) and made the 400m final , his Pb over 400 was 45.7, in his later years he reinvented himself as an 800m runner and ran 1:48.4. He probably didn't have the same top end speed then though. Obviously enough he also ran sub 21 for 200m.

You are an idiot.

Why would it be "obvious" that a 10.58 guy goes 20.99 or faster? Most don't, actually.

Irish running fan wrote:

Derek O'Connor ran 10.58 in 1985 as a 20year old. He later ran NCAA for Iona (I think) and made the 400m final , his Pb over 400 was 45.7, in his later years he reinvented himself as an 800m runner and ran 1:48.4. He probably didn't have the same top end speed then though. Obviously enough he also ran sub 21 for 200m.

You are an idiot.

Why would it be "obvious" that a 10.58 guy goes 20.99 or faster? Most don't, actually.

HardLoper wrote:

rupp-certified salaadbar wrote:

What an idiotic post. Solomon is a 1:42 guy. That is within 2% of the WR.

So his sub-11 is on the "same level of awesomeness" as a 9.78 100m guy running sub-1:57. AKA pretty damn awesome. (Let me know when that happens, genius.)

Let me know when 1:42 man Solomon runs sub-11 first?

You are an idiot.

Um, he ran 10.84 in March. Pay attention when the grown-ups are talking.