Caster Semenya Marries Girlfriend

rojo wrote:

Thedirty wrote:

It's astonishing that Castwr can compete with females. Watch "her" steal gold in Rio.

The women's 800 could be a real problem in 2016. While the media focuses on how PEDs are ruining the sports, I'm very much worried about the intersex issue.

Any of the intersex athletes who were treated surgically won't be factors in 2016 but those who were on hormone treatment but aren't due to the idiotic CAS decision might dominate.

The irony here is that all the PC liberal SJWs who think people like Caster should be able to race against women without undergoing hormone treatment are only hurting women.

Truth.

reader of the forums 2.0 wrote:

The irony here is that all the PC liberal SJWs who think people like Caster should be able to race against women without undergoing hormone treatment are only hurting women.

rojo wrote:

Thedirty wrote:

It's astonishing that Castwr can compete with females. Watch "her" steal gold in Rio.

The women's 800 could be a real problem in 2016. While the media focuses on how PEDs are ruining the sports, I'm very much worried about the intersex issue.

Any of the intersex athletes who were treated surgically won't be factors in 2016 but those who were on hormone treatment but aren't due to the idiotic CAS decision might dominate.

Do we have any idea an approximate number of intersex competitors there might be? At least in terms of upper-tier competition?

Caster's bride seems very lovely

bonkers wrote:

Hey, its women's athletics. Let them do what they want. They aren't breaking any World Records, only Women's world records.

rojo wrote:

The women's 800 could be a real problem in 2016. While the media focuses on how PEDs are ruining the sports, I'm very much worried about the intersex issue.

Any of the intersex athletes who were treated surgically won't be factors in 2016 but those who were on hormone treatment but aren't due to the idiotic CAS decision might dominate.

The sh!tty thing is that we still don't know what exactly Caster is working with. The IAAF never disclosed her condition (is she a hermaphrodite? Is she 100% female? If she was born intersex, did she have certain sex organs removed? Did she go on hormones?)

With so many variables and so many questions, you're right, the intersex issue could really lock women out.

I'm all for transgender people living their lives and what not but I also see that it's unfair to real biological women trying to compete if they're up against a woman who has an extra chromosome or testes in addition to ovaries.

if your wearing a dress your okay .

especially when the doctor asks ya tae cough

Caster is dressed like a man while the real woman/bride is in a nice dress. And it is indeed ironic that while the Liberals try to manipulate people through acting 'inclusive', they are only hurting (real) women; namely those Caster competes against. There's probably a few other men in the womens 800 in Rio, that event seems to attract the transgenders who want to cheat the system.

Boilerplate crap. I thought LR could be more critical.

1. First of all, Semenya denies it. Why deny a public ceremony you organized and participated in and had multiple witnesses?

2. She is wearing jeans. Duh. On a serious once-in-a-lifetime ceremony you planned with someone you love?

3. Dancing with a woman does not constitute a wedding idiots.

4. African traditional wedding ceremony involving lesbians? Puhleeze. Where has that ever happened?

5. The sources are all questionable gossip columns and all use words like alleged, reported etc. i.e. No eyewitnesses. Just rumours.

6. Where is the photo of them and whoever was presiding "wedding" them? Where are the photos of them in the rituals? They got deleted? Idiots.

Wake the ef up.

Thedirty wrote:

Caster is dressed like a man while the real woman/bride is in a nice dress. And it is indeed ironic that while the Liberals try to manipulate people through acting 'inclusive', they are only hurting (real) women; namely those Caster competes against. There's probably a few other men in the womens 800 in Rio, that event seems to attract the transgenders who want to cheat the system.

See my earlier post.

I am very liberal and for equal opportunity and inclusiveness but I do not feel that it is fair that women have to compete against Caster.

Semenya has the opportunity to race against men.

I think true lesbians who wear jeans while they marry other women should be allowed to compete against women.

But I don't think a transgender person should compete against women.

Anyone that was born with male hormones should compete only against men.

And a born female that takes male hormones to become a man should not be allowed to compete at all because that is taking PEDs.

That's my liberal view.

I'm afraid I'm going to have to revoke your liberal card. You sound like a neo-nazi with all of that binary gender nonsense.

If Caster feels like a woman, she can compete against women. Case closed!

Hopefully she wins a gold medal so you can see that your negativity did nothing to stop her from achieving greatness.

I'm not binary on gender except when it comes to women being at a competitive disadvantage.

The sport is gender binary.

There are men's and women's events. You compete in one or the other.

You have to classify a person as one or the other.

Or we can have no classifications and have everyone race equally, but women would never win an elite race if we did that.

As I liberal, I am looking out for the rights of women here.

Perchance wrote:

The sh!tty thing is that we still don't know what exactly Caster is working with. The IAAF never disclosed her condition (is she a hermaphrodite? Is she 100% female? If she was born intersex, did she have certain sex organs removed? Did she go on hormones?)

I'm all for transgender people living their lives and what not but I also see that it's unfair to real biological women trying to compete if they're up against a woman who has an extra chromosome or testes in addition to ovaries.

While it was never official, enough about her condition was leaked.

Castor was offered two options to compete: surgery or drugs. She formally stated that she refused to undergo surgery. The ONLY reason for surgery would be internal testes.

Backing up this position, it was leaked that she had internal testes months before her announcement of refusal to undergo surgery. Her testosterone levels were three times higher than the average athlete, far outside the standard deviation for all women and another indication of testes.

It was also leaked that she had no ovaries, but that would be immaterial from a performance enhancing perspective.

In addition to Semenya, you might figure that a Kenyan and a Ugandan athlete who were speculated about here but whose names I will not name to protect their privacy when they are not entered currently, of course, will be likely entrants, and others will likely come out of the woodwork. It has not been fair even without the intersex athletes because of the dopers, but it will be particularly difficult for women who are clean when they will face not only the usual dopers but also an unrestrained influx of intersex or even biologically unambiguous males entering, due to the recent decision. Simply put, there will never again be fair competition for women as long as those decisions are maintained.

Actually we just want a fair competition for the 49.9% of humans that are normal biological females.

The 0.2% of "other" can either run with the 49.9% of normal dudes or have a race with themselves.

Next.

The only thing that is fair in this situation is to have just open athletic competition with one category open to all human beings. Having men's and women's categories means that you have categories that systematically exclude around 50% of the human race and that is absoutely wrong in today's world where both sexes have equal opportunities. We are no longer living in the1900s. Any employer would be taken a court of human rights if they started excluding people from doing a job systematically because of their sex even though a person of either sex would be equally able of doing the job.

L L wrote:

I think true lesbians who wear jeans while they marry other women should be allowed to compete against women.

As opposed to straight women who wear jeans...?