Chet Manly wrote:
I thought you said this could never happen after Stephanie Hightower replaced Bob Hersh as the US' IAAF rep?
That doesn't happen until August. Bob was at the IAAF Council Meeting, Stephanie was not. She has not even been elected to the Council.
I think the Council members wanting to throw a bone to outgoing President Diack and outgoing Senior VP Bob Hersh was a factor. I don't know why else they would do this NOW instead of waiting for another bid cycle.
They are supposed to increase Hayward's capacity from "10,500" to 30,000. The 10,500 is already a myth, 30,000 is not gonna happen.
Bad Wigins wrote:
They are supposed to increase Hayward's capacity from "10,500" to 30,000. The 10,500 is already a myth, 30,000 is not gonna happen.
This was my first thought. They couldn't fit everyone successfully for the Trials when I was there in 2012, and that was with temporary bleachers. I can't imagine how they are going to get 30k seating in that complex, short of completely tearing down the iconic stands.
rojo wrote:
vivalarepublica wrote:Just purchased my tickets. I'll see you all there.
Nice try. Tickets aren't on sale.
A very surprising development.
Here is a good analysis of the development and who deserve credit (he says five people - Vin Lananna, Bob Fasulo, Max Siegel, Lamine Diack, and Seb Coe) by Alan Abrahamson:
http://www.3wiresports.com/2015/04/16/eugene-gets-the-2021-track-championships/Also the Eugene Register Guard article on the development:
http://registerguard.com/rg/news/local/32987631-75/eugene-to-host-2021-track-and-field-world-championships.html.cspHere is the IAAF article:
http://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/eugene-awarded-2021-iaaf-world-championships
Of course Abrahamson wouldn't give any credit to Hersh. He was a very strong supporter of Hightower.
Hersh was instrumental in helping Vin/USATF lay the groundwork for the Eugene bid. This is in no small part thanks to Bob.
thats what he said wrote:
Once an Expert wrote:So excited that we're showcasing our country to the world by hosting this in our 155th largest city!
Size isn't everything.
Oh yeah! Let's go big. I was at the Olympic Trials (!!) in NYC and even with all the ads about Dan and Dave in the decathlon, the stands were mostly empty. New York City! I think that one, even then, was a bit larger than the 155th largest city. But, as noted, size does not matter. Glad I am not the only one with that view. (I think on the final days the crowds got up to maybe 10,000--a low number in tiny Eugene).
Bad Wigins wrote:
They are supposed to increase Hayward's capacity from "10,500" to 30,000. The 10,500 is already a myth, 30,000 is not gonna happen.
Wait and watch it happen, negative Nancy. It. Will. Happen.
A Duck wrote:
Bad Wigins wrote:They are supposed to increase Hayward's capacity from "10,500" to 30,000. The 10,500 is already a myth, 30,000 is not gonna happen.
Wait and watch it happen, negative Nancy. It. Will. Happen.
Of course it won't happen. Even if they built it, there aren't going to be 30,000 people there in any case. There are no more than 2000 local fans, probably far less. Mostly the stands are filled by fans from out of town and coaches and families of athletes. The city doesn't have the capacity to house 28,000 non-locals. Didn't Lananna have some crazy idea to shuttle people in from Portland or Salem? No way are 28,000 people going to travel to an event where they have to commute from a different city.
And the city of Eugene would not be too keen on the horrible traffic and parking issues for an entire week. You know, those people who you step off campus and say "Edward Cheserek" and they all say "who?" Track is a UO thing, not a Eugene thing. Fortunately for the UO, the capacity requirement only matters on paper. They have no need to follow through and the IAAF won't, and shouldn't, require them to.
Once an Expert wrote:
So excited that we're showcasing our country to the world by hosting this in our 155th largest city!
Is Eugene really that big?
cynical cindy wrote:
Quid pro quo. Hightower takes care of Nike, Nike throws some money at IAAF to ensure they get the meet, making Hightower look good.
Hightower is not the IAAF rep. Hersh is.
Hersh was mentioned today on the teleconference I believe by Lananna. They gave credit to everyone on this, but I did find it ironic that Eugene got Worlds with Bob Hersh on the IAAF Council when the Board said he had done nothing for USA Track and Field in 20 years and tried to smear him by associating him with the current regime. The current regime is the regime that gave them Worlds.
God said to Abrahamson wrote:
Of course Abrahamson wouldn't give any credit to Hersh. He was a very strong supporter of Hightower.
I was expecting him to somehow give Stephanie credit for this!! :)
IAAF release unfortunately names Hightower but not Hersh.
http://www.iaaf.org/news/press-release/eugene-awarded-2021-iaaf-world-championships
Bad Wigins wrote:
A Duck wrote:Wait and watch it happen, negative Nancy. It. Will. Happen.
Of course it won't happen. Even if they built it, there aren't going to be 30,000 people there in any case. There are no more than 2000 local fans, probably far less. Mostly the stands are filled by fans from out of town and coaches and families of athletes. The city doesn't have the capacity to house 28,000 non-locals. Didn't Lananna have some crazy idea to shuttle people in from Portland or Salem? No way are 28,000 people going to travel to an event where they have to commute from a different city.
And the city of Eugene would not be too keen on the horrible traffic and parking issues for an entire week. You know, those people who you step off campus and say "Edward Cheserek" and they all say "who?" Track is a UO thing, not a Eugene thing. Fortunately for the UO, the capacity requirement only matters on paper. They have no need to follow through and the IAAF won't, and shouldn't, require them to.
Dude, you're just wrong.
If you were right, then no meet after UO is out of session would ever sell out, and they do.
Is track as big as football? No, but then that is the same in every single USA city.
A more cogent comment would be to note that 2021 is 6 years from now, and the Eugene fan base, and track and field's fan base, is aging, for that matter.
It would be wild if Tracktown put the tickets on sale this summer. CHAOS.
How much did worldwide the TV rights deal and the commitment for extensive North American coverage by NBC/Universal play in the decision?
... and the allure of The Famous Bowerman Curve did not hurt the bid ;)
Bad Wigins wrote:
A Duck wrote:Wait and watch it happen, negative Nancy. It. Will. Happen.
Of course it won't happen. Even if they built it, there aren't going to be 30,000 people there in any case. There are no more than 2000 local fans, probably far less. Mostly the stands are filled by fans from out of town and coaches and families of athletes. The city doesn't have the capacity to house 28,000 non-locals. Didn't Lananna have some crazy idea to shuttle people in from Portland or Salem? No way are 28,000 people going to travel to an event where they have to commute from a different city.
And the city of Eugene would not be too keen on the horrible traffic and parking issues for an entire week. You know, those people who you step off campus and say "Edward Cheserek" and they all say "who?" Track is a UO thing, not a Eugene thing. Fortunately for the UO, the capacity requirement only matters on paper. They have no need to follow through and the IAAF won't, and shouldn't, require them to.
You are such a moron. There are more than 2,500 dues paying members of the local Oregon Track Club. And the interest in and commitment to T&F is greater in Eugene then I've experienced in any other US city.
Local people heavily attend the Pre Classic, NCAA Champs and Oly Trials. 2012 Trials top attendance was 22,602 (see
http://tracksuperfan.com/olympic-trials-attendance-breakdownfor actual facts, not jealousy-inspired tripe by baby doll wiggins). And actually a lot of people in Eugene know about King Ches.
But hey, appreciate the negativity and ignorance demonstrated in your post. Hope not to see you in 2021, I look forward to being around 30,000+ knowledgable, passionate, good-willed and fun loving T&F fans from around the world.
Bad Wigins wrote:
A Duck wrote:Wait and watch it happen, negative Nancy. It. Will. Happen.
Of course it won't happen. Even if they built it, there aren't going to be 30,000 people there in any case. There are no more than 2000 local fans, probably far less. Mostly the stands are filled by fans from out of town and coaches and families of athletes. The city doesn't have the capacity to house 28,000 non-locals. Didn't Lananna have some crazy idea to shuttle people in from Portland or Salem? No way are 28,000 people going to travel to an event where they have to commute from a different city.
And the city of Eugene would not be too keen on the horrible traffic and parking issues for an entire week. You know, those people who you step off campus and say "Edward Cheserek" and they all say "who?" Track is a UO thing, not a Eugene thing. Fortunately for the UO, the capacity requirement only matters on paper. They have no need to follow through and the IAAF won't, and shouldn't, require them to.
You are such a moron. There are more than 2,500 dues paying members of the local Oregon Track Club. And the interest in and commitment to T&F is greater in Eugene then I've experienced in any other US city.
Local people heavily attend the Pre Classic, NCAA Champs and Oly Trials. 2012 Trials top attendance was 22,602 (see
http://tracksuperfan.com/olympic-trials-attendance-breakdownfor actual facts, not jealousy-inspired tripe by baby doll wiggins). And actually a lot of people in Eugene know about King Ches.
But hey, appreciate the negativity and ignorance demonstrated in your post. Hope not to see you in 2021, I look forward to being around 30,000+ knowledgable, passionate, good-willed and fun loving T&F fans from around the world.
This is exciting for Eugene, the USA, IAAF and the sport. No place loves track and field more than Eugene, Oregon. I've been there for many USATF championship and Olympic Trials and the atmosphere is just plain "electric" at times. Eugene offers something that nowhere else can, passionate local fans, excited visitors and athletes who appreciate the attention they receive. Eugene's plans for Hayward Field are to begin a build-out of the Wast grandstands as soon as late July this Summer. By the time the World Championships are held, the permanent stadium will be around 20,000, with 10-12,000 temporary bleachers. The ruse that there is not enough housing for visitors is just that. I have noticed on my last few visits that there has been a building boom in Eugene with numerous new hotels and high rise student housing buildings that will be vacant during the Summer of the World Championships. I just recently saw a report that Hyatt, Hilton and a few others are breaking ground for new hotels there. On top of that, Portland, just over an hour away has many thousands of upscale rooms. It takes longer than that to travel 10 miles many days in LA and other larger cities. Exciting stuff having this event in Eugene, and I'd buy my tickets today if they were available.
Good Tidings wrote:
On top of that, Portland, just over an hour away has many thousands of upscale rooms. It takes longer than that to travel 10 miles many days in LA and other larger cities.
Have you ever actually driven from Portland to Eugene? It's more like two hours away, maybe you are getting confused with Salem...
So the U of O doesn't draw 30,000 fans every other weekend. Even if a portion of those are students, most of them won't be there in Summer.
Good Tidings wrote:
On top of that, Portland, just over an hour away
Do you normally drive 100 mph between Portland and Eugene?
I'm sure Eugene will be ready to host enough track and field fans to fill a 30k stadium for just over a week. The city, passionate about the sport, will no doubt make a great host. Retaining the character of Hayward Field whilst tripling the capacity could be a challenge.