Great Oak already has SEVEN girls under 11 minutes

Sporty Spice is right. Even if they are planning on running in college, many skip track because they can't put as much into it as they did earlier years. While I don't get it, I guess it is better than blowing of classes like I did.

They'll all be broke down, burnt out, and ridden with stress fractures by the time they get out of that program. But by all means, keep pounding out those 90 mile weeks Great Oak girls!!!

I have to say these look like healthy happy kids - they have muscles and body fat - both on the boys and girls side.

http://gohs.tvusd.k12.ca.us/cms/page_view?d=x&piid=&vpid=1313668243131

They look it, yeah. I was surprised, too, when I heard that one of my college teammates had run 80-90 miles per week at Great Oak... She looks plenty healthy, as far as "body fat" goes. But she has been plagued with Stress Fracture after Stress fracture.

Get a grip.

Not great wrote:

Lousy coaching job in cross country for all the talent this school gets. They should be a world beater with the kind of marks they put up every year.

As you said Great Oak is a time trial team. Just wait until Desert Vista, Great Oak and Saugus meet up in the 4xmile at Arcadia two weekends from now.

Yep, second at NXN, what crap coaching!

Great Oak should have won NXN by a landslide last year. They were killing everyone through the first half of the season.

Dont drop the baton wrote:

Great Oak didn't win the 4x1600 at Mt Sac Relays last year, even with 2 4:4x milers.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJFqT3pYPOY

It took the great Fiona O'Keefe to outrun Destiny on the last leg. Also, Destiny was coming back from a groin injury and this race was her second. we all know that she later came in 2nd in the state 1600. Unfortunately, I do not see that Fiona competed at State although she most definitely qualified in the sectionals.

College coaches are in the know... No major D1 program will touch a GO girl... They are shot out by the time they get to college... and why no older kids? They are broken or injured... So sad will be interesting to see how Destiny comes back the kid had talent... A bad attitude but talent none the less... Keep drinking the Kool Aid GO

Thanks for the explanation. I don't typically follow high school running. That makes a lot of sense.

They have a pretty strong mountain bike club team as well.

great bloke wrote:

Thanks for the explanation. I don't typically follow high school running. That makes a lot of sense.

Yep...people ragging on Great Oaks for not retaining seniors clearly aren't HS coaches themselves. Keeping senior girls around on a high-level team during the spring is a real challenge. Hard to blame them too much when they're about to go off to college—usually very academically rigorous ones, too!

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great bloke wrote:

Thanks for the explanation. I don't typically follow high school running. That makes a lot of sense.

Yep...people ragging on Great Oaks for not retaining seniors clearly aren't HS coaches themselves. Keeping senior girls around on a high-level team during the spring is a real challenge. Hard to blame them too much when they're about to go off to college—usually very academically rigorous ones, too!

What is it about spring of senior year and college that have to do with no longer wanting to be a part of one of the best teams in the nation? Is anybody getting into college based on their final semester?

someone say it wrote:

They'll all be broke down, burnt out, and ridden with stress fractures by the time they get out of that program. But by all means, keep pounding out those 90 mile weeks Great Oak girls!!!

90 mile weeks! Seriously? Oh, its April First.

You can add to the list of things that you can count on. We know there is death and taxes and we need to add to that the message board threads that bash teachers and talk about how great Cali girls teams are and how they will win NXN. Those 2 seem to pop up every few months

Oh and just so you know in NYS girls race 3000 not 3200 so that might explain why there are no girls under 11 for 3200 plus meets have not started in NY yet (well maybe today)

fragileyoungsters wrote:

Don't sleep on injuries....

Arcadia is just around the corner. Great Oak's star runner, Destiny Collins looks to have a busy weekend awaiting. Apparently the injuries she struggled through in cross country are long behind her.

She is entered in the following.

Friday 4:44 pm - 4 x 800m Invitational

Friday 7:48 pm - 4 x 1600m Invitational

Saturday 5:49 pm - 1 Mile Invitational

Saturday 7:35 pm - Distance Medley Invitational

Saturday 8:40 pm - 3200m Invitational

That may seem like a lot of races, but they have another junior in 5 events as well, and two of their 10th graders one upped them and are in 6 events.

Here's a recent clip of the girls out training.

Not to be outdone by their boys' star runner, Isaac Cortes! Entered in 7 events. What's the lesser of the two evils here as a coach, actually having him run these 7 events or gaming the system by using your best athletes times to get your other athletes listed as "alternates" in heats they wouldn't otherwise qualify for?

Friday 5:08 pm - 4 x 800 Invitational

Friday 6:47 pm - 1600 Sprint Medley Invitational

Friday 9:40 pm - 4 x 1600 Invitational

Saturday 6:04 pm - 1 Mile Invitational

Saturday 6:44 pm - 800m Invitational

Saturday 9:10 pm - Distance Medley Invitational

Saturday 9:39 pm - 4 x 400 Seeded

Just wait and see where the Great Oak girls are at the end of the season, especially with so many races early in the season. I bet Collins is the only one to make the state final.

In 2009 Saugus' top seven ran:

10:27.70 Kaylin Mahoney (10)

10:30.70 Stephanie Bulder (10)

10:39.40 Annie Randall (12)

10:41.82 Karis Frankian (9)

10:47.41 Amber Murakami (11)

10:52.35 Brianna Jauregui (12)

11:03.25 Courtney Wilson (12)

Four of the seven qualified for the state final and that quartet went 6-8-9-10 at the CIF Masters Meet. Still the best group of two milers to this day.

Word on the street is the Great Oak coach entered girls 15-20 seconds slower than their best times at APU. Dick move.

great flake wrote:

Just wait and see where the Great Oak girls are at the end of the season, especially with so many races early in the season. I bet Collins is the only one to make the state final.

In 2009 Saugus' top seven ran:

10:27.70 Kaylin Mahoney (10)

10:30.70 Stephanie Bulder (10)

10:39.40 Annie Randall (12)

10:41.82 Karis Frankian (9)

10:47.41 Amber Murakami (11)

10:52.35 Brianna Jauregui (12)

11:03.25 Courtney Wilson (12)

Four of the seven qualified for the state final and that quartet went 6-8-9-10 at the CIF Masters Meet. Still the best group of two milers to this day.

How have they done since? Any run in college? Any run well?