What was Kimetto's 'casual training'?

This is funny too:

"Kimetto said he had been diagnosed with malaria in July and had a back problem in August but had trained well the past six weeks."

Malaria AND a back problem!

Ritz misses a few weeks of training here and there and everyone is all like "POOR RITZ! That guy is ALWAYS hurt! Can't catch a break. if he were more durable, he'd be running 2:04 like them africans."

In reality, Ritz trained as hard in HS as Kimetto does now (not faster, but as hard, as far as volume and pace relative to ability. Look at some of his insane HS training). Ritz has WAAY more lifetime miles than Kimetto, showed incredible talent as a youngster, has incredible drive and work ethic, excellent speed at 2 miles and 5k, amazing support from Nike and Salazar, cutting edge/gray area "recovery" means (altitude houses), trained on trails/hills in CO and OR as nice as anything the Kenyans train on, etc, etc, etc....

Doesn't matter. Ritz 2:07, kimetto 2:02.

It ain't the farming. It ain't the environment.

not living in the US eating fast food and drinking frappachinos for the first ~25 years or so of life.

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

Ritz misses a few weeks of training here and there and everyone is all like "POOR RITZ! That guy is ALWAYS hurt! Can't catch a break. if he were more durable, he'd be running 2:04 like them africans."

Yeah, that is totally what typical letsrunners say about Ritz

0/10

Holy shit Rexing, take a freaking chill pill

Runthemhillsboy wrote:

Kimetto had to do what every Kenyan woukd do, test the waters and see how deep before committing fully.

By "test the waters", are you referring to when he ran internationally under a pseudonym?

That wrinkle makes the 'dirt farmer to WR setter' story bordering on the strange. The journalists haven't yet gotten the story straight, because in this article, they're saying the chance encounter was six years ago, rather than in 2010:

fatties all around us wrote:

not living in the US eating fast food and drinking frappachinos for the first ~25 years or so of life.

lol, very true

even if you have inate talent for the marathon in the US, you're not going to discover it under all that fat and it's going to be an uphill battle if you try

Sciatica Road wrote:

Runthemhillsboy wrote:

Kimetto had to do what every Kenyan woukd do, test the waters and see how deep before committing fully.

By "test the waters", are you referring to when he ran internationally under a pseudonym?

...and while claiming an age 10 years younger?

What agent and/or organization got him into that 25km in Berlin?

Sciatica Road wrote:

Sciatica Road wrote:

By "test the waters", are you referring to when he ran internationally under a pseudonym?

...and while claiming an age 10 years younger?

http://m.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/who-and-how-old-dennis-kimetto

What agent and/or organization got him into that 25km in Berlin?

And into "his first two (international) races outside of Kenya (where he ran under the name Koech), that RAK Half in the United Arab Emirates and the Vattenhall Berlin Half Marathon on April 2, 2012, which he completed in 59:14."

Sciatica Road wrote:

Sciatica Road wrote:

...and while claiming an age 10 years younger?

http://m.runnersworld.com/elite-runners/who-and-how-old-dennis-kimetto

What agent and/or organization got him into that 25km in Berlin?

And into "his first two (international) races outside of Kenya (where he ran under the name Koech), that RAK Half in the United Arab Emirates and the Vattenhall Berlin Half Marathon on April 2, 2012, which he completed in 59:14."

"Track and field needs a commissioner. Until they have one, we're going to take that role of the "Unofficial commissioner" and repeatedly ask ourselves, "What about the sport?" Well, the unofficial commissioner - LetsRun.com - says that a real commissioner would fine Koech or his agent for such shenanigans."

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

This is funny too:

"Kimetto said he had been diagnosed with malaria in July and had a back problem in August but had trained well the past six weeks."

Malaria AND a back problem!

Don't forget the "treatments" (term per his agent Gerard Van de Veen) he received for the injury that required him to drop out of Boston in April this year.

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

It ain't the farming. It ain't the environment.

So what do you think it is?

Sciatica Road wrote:

Tyrannosaurus Rexing wrote:

This is funny too:

"Kimetto said he had been diagnosed with malaria in July and had a back problem in August but had trained well the past six weeks."

Malaria AND a back problem!

Don't forget the "treatments" (term per his agent Gerard Van de Veen) he received for the injury that required him to drop out of Boston in April this year.

Not sure what to think now about Kimetto's Boston performance. Somebody a while back on the P. Radcliffe thread stressed how big the business side of the sport is. You think any back room dealings go on...to the effect: Volare Agent, "our guy will take the fall this race so that your guy comes out on top, but then we all agree to call off the WADA cop business on our guys for a while."

pEdS

$$$$

this kimetto business is fishy

he was the guy who pulled up to let another man win

he's no simple farmer

I smell peds

There have been several fatties(fat Kenyans too!) or junk food eaters who reached World Class status.

You don't eliminate favorable genetics because of that.

And that's what it's all about.

28 minutes on 28 miles wrote:

Kimetto had about four cows. Not a lot of cardio there.

Yes, it was roughly 4 cows. I think 4.25 to be exact. WTF???

Of course, there could be some cardio involved if the .25 cow wasn't at least 2 legs. Imagine carrying a quarter of a cow around all day???

Dick Doobey wrote:

28 minutes on 28 miles wrote:

Kimetto had about four cows. Not a lot of cardio there.

Yes, it was roughly 4 cows. I think 4.25 to be exact. WTF???

Of course, there could be some cardio involved if the .25 cow wasn't at least 2 legs. Imagine carrying a quarter of a cow around all day???

One of the cows was pregnant.

According to various dictionaries, kawaida, if that's the word he used, can also be translated as

- system

- usual

- normal

- ordinary

- routine (adj)

jjjjjjjjj wrote:

tending cattle in east africa can mean going long distances with them to find enough food, so he may have been very active.

It is a long walk for them to get EPO