Nike Pegasus 31...the truth

Fellow runner wrote:

I'd love to tell you but they made the toe box so bizzarly narrow, I cant get my foot in.

The last ones I had (29s) were nearly too roomy, these are completely too small.

I bought the wider version and wear 3 pair of socks . I started getting blisters, I don't know why because I was wearing 3 pair of socks.

I am having the same issues. I haven't worn Nikes in years. I've been through so many shoes Mizuno Precision, Adidas Boston, and NB 880 were my last 3 favorites. I went in to get another pair of NB 880s, but the new model hasn't come out and the old one wasn't available in my size. So, my running store had me try a few, and I decided on this one. I'm having some foot pain on the inside on my heel, my arches hurt after almost every run, and my nagging Achilles pain has gotten worse. I don't know what it is, but the NB 880s insole cups my foot better on both sides, where this shoe doesn't seem to provide much lateral support, OR it may be forcing my feet into an unnatural position. I do run trail as well, and I was able to do that in the NB, but not so much in these.

alpha wrote:

Worst update in recent memory.

I was averaging 80 mpw in Pegasus 28,29,30's. I got the 31's and while they didn't feel great I figured I'd give them a chance, after about 200 miles I realized I made a big mistake. In the few weeks I ran in the 31's I developed several lower leg/ankle/achilles/foot issues. At this point I'm down to 30 mpw trying to figure out what to wear. Currently rehabbing in Altra's, goofy looking shoes but I am improving. Really not sure where to go next.

this shit happened to me too

shout out to nike town seattle who let me return the shoe for giving me pain after putting 50 miles on it

Yes. It's absolutely 10mm.

they specifically reduced it from 12mm in the previous model (Pegasus 30 drop measurement) to "promote a more natural foot strike." This seems to be the trend nowadays, as the benefits of lower drop shoes are becoming more apparent and the running community is getting used to not running on glorified high heels.

Confirmation here:

http://www.tackl.com/gear/pegasus-31-running-shoe-23079

You can also get the same figure from Nike's official site.

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/air-zoom-pegasus-31-running-shoe/pid-10199712/pgid-1066805

hope this helps!!!

by the way:

I didn't like the Pegasus 31 as much as the 30, but that's because i have a medium-wide foot.

My wife has long narrow feet and she prefers the Pegasus 31 to the 30, and prefers it to her other 5 pairs of shoes (bought in the last 2 years) as well ... including top of the line Brooks and Saucony models.

I just asked her and she said the difference in the drop is not that noticeable. The 31 a little less "cushy" than the 30, she said... but not by much. Her main distance is 1/2 marathon.

phil2323 wrote:

Yes. It's absolutely 10mm.

they specifically reduced it from 12mm in the previous model (Pegasus 30 drop measurement) to "promote a more natural foot strike." This seems to be the trend nowadays, as the benefits of lower drop shoes are becoming more apparent and the running community is getting used to not running on glorified high heels.

Confirmation here:

http://www.tackl.com/gear/pegasus-31-running-shoe-23079

You can also get the same figure from Nike's official site.

http://store.nike.com/us/en_us/pd/air-zoom-pegasus-31-running-shoe/pid-10199712/pgid-1066805

hope this helps!!!

The Pegasus 32 will have a heel toe drop of 13.2mm....I guess they threw out the idea of "promote a more natural foot strike."

13.2 according to whom?

some blogger?

some running store employee?

The 32 has the same midsole as the 31, nike didn't change the drop. Nike says it's 10mm.

How exactly do bloggers and store people measure the drop? Where exactly are they taking their measurements? How do you measure the forefoot stack height without removing the upper?

I can think of a multitude of ways that the measured drop will vary by a few milimeters...and I'd be suspicious of anyone claiming they can measure it to within a tenth of a mm, too.

The Pegasus changed a lot more from 28 to 29 and from 29 to 30 than it did from 30 to 31... I suspect the timing of your injury relative to the switch in models may be coincidental.

I loved the 30 and previous models. I run 90-100 miles a week and never had any real injury issues. I went with the 31's too when they came out. I've been struggling with achilles issues since.

I'm sure it's a problem specific to me, my stride, feet etc. but it's been frustrating.

I had to switch to the vomero. It's the closest replacement in the Nike line for me. Not the same but manageable.