Katie Ledecky has already qualified for Olympic Trials in 2 men's events - could any tracksters do that in USA?

thorpedo wrote:

It also doesn't hurt that hundreds of swimmers in each event qualify for the Olympic trials.

Exactly. For me that explains everything right there. The standards are much softer than in Track.

I remember flipping around on tv one weekend and catching a few minutes of the 2012 US Olympic Trials in Swimming and Michael Phelps was in a prelim heat of some event, and it was seriously like "Heat 9" and there were more heats that followed. I was thinking, whoa, 8 lane pool, all lanes full, >9 heats, DANG, how many fools get to swim in the olympic trials??? They must advance to the final pretty quickly based on time or this could take forever, and dude would have to swim soooooo many races. ahahahah.

But, even given that, if over 100 people qualified to the Track Olympic trials, I'm still not sure we'd have any women at all make the men's trials. Flojo's world records *might* be close. *Maybe* JJK in the long jump at 24 ft +? Annually, 100th best men's mark in any given event is still waaaaay faster than women's world record.

ledecky is 17 too! nuts.. imagine your high school teammates watching you go a 4:35, 500 yard free, easy at a duel meet, not that she'd ever swim a regular season dual meet

pac12is the best conference wrote:

ledecky is 17 too! nuts.. imagine your high school teammates watching you go a 4:35, 500 yard free, easy at a duel meet, not that she'd ever swim a regular season dual meet

She does high school dual meets :)

AND the drugs help too !!!!!

like chinese male distance record holder.

if it looks to good to be true then it usually is.

absolutely a rupp-certified doper but goes into

the coe/rudisha bracket of too squeaky clean to dope.

i wonder what could be helping that speed .

. igf-1 lr3 . ..amazing stuff if respond to it well ..

as for endurance could rock about with high hct with

xenon as an excuse for this year . next year ,,,

endurance might not be quite there but speed sure will.

17 is average for elite swimming , as starting young

like gymnastics is necessity to reach elite ranks .

adcuk2022 wrote:

AND the drugs help too !!!!!

like chinese male distance record holder.

if it looks to good to be true then it usually is.

absolutely a rupp-certified doper but goes into

the coe/rudisha bracket of too squeaky clean to dope.

i wonder what could be helping that speed .

. igf-1 lr3 . ..amazing stuff if respond to it well ..

as for endurance could rock about with high hct with

xenon as an excuse for this year . next year ,,,

endurance might not be quite there but speed sure will.

17 is average for elite swimming , as starting young

like gymnastics is necessity to reach elite ranks .

Good post. I have showed some of your posts to my friend who is a chemist in the pharmaceutical industry. Her response was that you know your stuff.

Guys, it's swimming. It's a recreational, rick white kid sport. Talent pool is shallow (pun intended) and perfecting form is not a gender-gated activity. It should not be divided between men and women on a competitive level at all.

qqttg wrote:

Guys, it's swimming. It's a recreational, rick white kid sport. Talent pool is shallow (pun intended) and perfecting form is not a gender-gated activity. It should not be divided between men and women on a competitive level at all.

Yeah, because Asbel Kiprop would be a fanstastic swimmer if only he tried it.

+ wrote:

thorpedo wrote:

It also doesn't hurt that hundreds of swimmers in each event qualify for the Olympic trials.

Exactly. For me that explains everything right there. The standards are much softer than in Track.

How does that explain everything?! Her time would have been good for 13th at the 2012 US Olympic trials in the men's 1500m.

Yes he probably would be. Are you slow in the head, sir?

probably would sink wrote:

qqttg wrote:

Guys, it's swimming. It's a recreational, rick white kid sport. Talent pool is shallow (pun intended) and perfecting form is not a gender-gated activity. It should not be divided between men and women on a competitive level at all.

Yeah, because Asbel Kiprop would be a fanstastic swimmer if only he tried it.

Talent pool is shallow (pun intended) and perfecting form is not a gender-gated activity.

HOW old are you LPD .

get out the parents basement before it is to late !!!!!!

Talent pool is only everybody on the planet that can

tolerate abit of water and the standard is so high have to

start in early teens and get up at 6 am every morning to

have a chance to fit in number of hours needed in pool before even have a chance at elite level.

even tunisian has won at worlds ,all be it through american system

what the **** !! , but it is gender dependant.so kind a.

would say that testosterone ,etc

has alot to do with FORM that the human body requires for various physical phenomenon.

extra strength ,recovery ,endurance ,size helps in holding

and repeation of such FORM.

Charlie Sollers wrote:

+ wrote:

Exactly. For me that explains everything right there. The standards are much softer than in Track.

How does that explain everything?! Her time would have been good for 13th at the 2012 US Olympic trials in the men's 1500m.

http://www.usaswimming.org/_Rainbow/Documents/06c76f21-4af4-47f1-b6d6-62150dbf4340/complete%20meet%20results%20-%20olympic%20trials.pdf

Isn't that like the race walk of swimming? Was it even shown live durning the Olympics?

Bring Back the 880 wrote:

Isn't that like the race walk of swimming? Was it even shown live durning the Olympics?

More like the 10k.

thorpedo wrote:

It also doesn't hurt that hundreds of swimmers in each event qualify for the Olympic trials.

Exactly. Clown sport.