Has a Masters athlere ever made theUS Olympic Team

I believe Johnny Kelley (the Elder) was 40 when he finished 21st in the 1948 Olympic marathon (12 years after finishing 18th in 1936)

Le Foot wrote:

How is that more impressive than Carl Lewis? 4 straight long jump golds, last one at age 36.

It's not but Lewis wasn't a masters athlete at the time according to the World Masters' Association, however, Linford Christie has 3 35-39 masters world records.

Confusing huh?

Tebbs Lloyd-Johnson was the oldest endurance athlete, winning the 50 kilometer walk at 48.

sweet dreams are made of this wrote:

any 40 or over athlete make the USOG Track&Field Team?

do any masters have the 2016 OGTrials standards?

What are the 2016 trials standards in all the events?

Oh, that's easy. The REAL question is whether any 40 or over athlete has come back from being lapped to win a trials event, on a low-mileage training program

pv runner wrote:

I believe Johnny Kelley (the Elder) was 40 when he finished 21st in the 1948 Olympic marathon (12 years after finishing 18th in 1936)

Yes. Kelley was among those cited yesterday.

This makes me wonder why with top shot putters every year, we have gone a long time without top men's discus, hammer, and javelin throwers.

There seems to be some confusion as to what T&F means and even what US means.

coach d wrote:

[quote]Le Foot wrote:

[quote]Johnny Appleseed wrote:

Al Oerter, though age 32 when he won his last discuss gold medal, is stands above the rest. Born Sept. 19, 1936. Medals:

1956 Melbourne GOLD

1960 Rome GOLD

1964 Tokyo GOLD

1968 Mexico City GOLD

[quote]sweet dreams are made of this wrote:

any 40 or over athlete make the USOG Track&Field Team?

do any masters have the 2016 OGTrials standards?

What are the 2016 trials standards in all the events?

Al made one more comeback attempt, in 1980 at age 43. He finished 4th.

at the US TRIALS he did not compete as a master in the OGs

Olympedia.org tells me he had other appearances at the OGs

•Torchbearer within the Olympic Stadium at the Opening Ceremony of the 1996 Summer Olympics

•Bearer of the Olympic Flag at the opening ceremony of the 1984 Summer Olympics

•Bearer of the Olympic Flag at the opening ceremony of the 1980 Winter Olympics

•Recipient of the Olympic Order in Silver (1978).

•Listed in Olympians Who Won a Medal at the Pan American Games

Captain Oblivious wrote:

There seems to be some confusion as to what T&F means and even what US means.

this made me laugh.

kim collins is not a u.s. citizen--maybe coach d is trying to expedite his citizenship, though, because making the u.s. team is easier than the st. kitts' team? and, while i have no doubt that kim collins has the ability (or whatever else he's relying on to run PRs at 38--asthma medicine?) to chase the over-40 records, i have plenty of doubts as to whether he WILL chase the records, and stay healthy, and all the other obstacles that we encounter as we get older. there are no sure things...

i'm sure some or most know the difference between what is technically masters (35 y/o) and what most masters consider masters (40 y/o), but i assume (because i know how to read) that the OP meant the over 40 definition. many of the 35-39 records are "pending" mainly because the guys who set them didn't think of themselves as masters since they were still so highly competitive and don't bother with applying for the records (this happened as well with some of the over 40 age group records, like steve placencia in the 5000). that said, i'm a little surprised at the ones that, at least according to wikipedia's records, were ratified--did bernard lagat really go through the trouble and paperwork to have all his 35-39 records ratified?

Harly anyone who is fast enough to compete open (including me) takes anything involving masters seriously. I mentioned Kim Collins because, like Sprintgeezder, I think he's clean, and he shows that it is technically possible to make the USOT entry standards in the most difficult event to qualify in. I find it unlikely that he will slow from 9.96 this year to not being able to make 10.20 in two years if he's still competing in Diamond League races.

Whether Kim Collins would even care about Masters records is another matter, but he may well continue competing as long as able. Lagat holds several US senior ARs as an official masters athlete and won a silver in the 3000 at 39, but the concept of him showing up for a masters championship is laughable.

i think most masters don't take things involving masters seriously, and least not in the way you're probably using the word. pretty easy to prove, too, since only 2 of the roughly 80 threads on the first page of the forum are about masters, so we are obviously a tinier niche audience in an already tiny niche audience.

i always find it odd, though, with 78 other threads for you to peruse, since you don't take masters athletics seriously, you still find your way into masters discussions...

but, for the record, i'll agree with you: i can't imagine lagat showing up to a masters meet either; the bigger question for someone like him, or collins for that matter, is how satisfying--and, contrary to what you may think, it CAN be satisfying--they'll find the sport when their abilities decline, and they WILL decline. will collins be ok with running 10.1 in b heats, or will lagat be content to run 3:55 or 3:37 in b heats when that time comes? if i were a betting man, sure, i'd bet they can do this in their 40s--no one's really going out on a limb projecting this--and maybe will, at least through age 40, but at 41, i'd be surprised to see them out there still...

coach d wrote:

Harly anyone who is fast enough to compete open (including me) takes anything involving masters seriously. I mentioned Kim Collins because, like Sprintgeezder, I think he's clean, and he shows that it is technically possible to make the USOT entry standards in the most difficult event to qualify in. I find it unlikely that he will slow from 9.96 this year to not being able to make 10.20 in two years if he's still competing in Diamond League races.

Whether Kim Collins would even care about Masters records is another matter, but he may well continue competing as long as able. Lagat holds several US senior ARs as an official masters athlete and won a silver in the 3000 at 39, but the concept of him showing up for a masters championship is laughable.

Willie Gault seems to enjoy it. But presumably he's not in your league.

Not a masters athlete but almost. Francie Larrieu Smith was just shy of 40 when she placed 12th in the marathon in Barcelona in 1992.

Johnny Appleseed wrote:

Al Oerter, though age 32 when he won his last discuss gold medal, is stands above the rest. Born Sept. 19, 1936. Medals:

1956 Melbourne GOLD

1960 Rome GOLD

1964 Tokyo GOLD

1968 Mexico City GOLD

sweet dreams are made of this wrote:

any 40 or over athlete make the USOG Track&Field Team?

do any masters have the 2016 OGTrials standards?

What are the 2016 trials standards in all the events?

How about a Masters age man setting an all time WR in practice?

Oerter retired from athletics after the 1968 Olympics. He did make an attempt to qualify for the American team in 1980 but he finished fourth. He nonetheless set his overall personal record of 69.46 metres (227.9 ft) that year at the age of 43. When filming for a TV segment, he unofficially threw about 245 feet (75 m), which would have set a still-standing world record. In later years, Oerter carried the Olympic flag for the 1984 Summer Olympics, then carried Olympic flame into the stadium for the 1996 Olympic Games.

”There was much more money involved. The athletes didn’t talk to each other during competitions and I couldn’t understand the rivalry. We should just go out there and throw as far as we possibly could and then have a beer. That’s what it’s all about.”

Oerter, whose best throw was 227-11 in 1980, said he expects someone to throw the discus 245 feet soon. Oerter will be married on July 23 to Cathy Carroll of Collins, Iowa, a long jumper whom he met in 1979 at the Sports Festival. ''Then, although I haven't been throwing consistently,'' he said, ''I'll begin the big push to get myself ready for 1984 and the Olympics.''

trackcoach248 wrote:

Not a masters athlete but almost. Francie Larrieu Smith was just shy of 40 when she placed 12th in the marathon in Barcelona in 1992.

Yes. FLS was cited at the top of page 2.

carlos Lopes [like slopes]won at OLY Marathon at 38

not the question I know

that we have a lot of info on an athlete that does not belong in the group of people who were on a USA OG Team as a master.coach d wrote:

Not a Coach wrote:

GGGG wrote:

Masters in track starts at age 35.

35 for women, 40 for men according to WMA.

That makes no sense. If anything, women age BETTER than men when it comes to preserving fitness into middle age.

Johnny Appleseed wrote:

Al Oerter, though age 32 when he won his last discuss gold medal, is stands above the rest. Born Sept. 19, 1936. Medals:

1956 Melbourne GOLD

1960 Rome GOLD

1964 Tokyo GOLD

1968 Mexico City GOLD

sweet dreams are made of this wrote:

any 40 or over athlete make the USOG Track&Field Team?

do any masters have the 2016 OGTrials standards?

What are the 2016 trials standards in all the events?

Oerter was 4th at the 1980 olympic trials at the age of 44, what a stud

Oerter made a comeback in his 40s/50s and threw lifetime bests. Was a real medal contender but got injured.