Babyjoggers should be outlawed in ALL races

And stick those nusiance kids in a day care, don't try parenting them or including them in your activities.

There are plenty of other things a parent can do with kids but a crowded road race is not a place for them in strollers.....

I used to volunteer track meets for years.

I will not go into detail but this one twit, whom I knew from HS (he was not as noteable a twit then, to me) showed up with a kid (presumably his) in a stroller.

The regulations POSTED on the track said "no baby strollers/joggers". He refused to obey (he comes from money) was obnoxious about it and ran in the event anyway (a 1500 race, yes you heard that right) despite instructions from the event director endangering all who competed. What were we supposed to do, make a citizen's arrest. I quit the following year, over 12 years was enough.

{The kids were usually ok, and SOME of the parents DID go out of their way to say 'thank you' at the end of each season, to give credit where it's due to the Good People.}

Baby joggers/strollers have their place, but the owners/operators HAVE TO TAKE SOME RESPONSIBILITY. I know that's obscene language in America today, but there it is.

Same mindset as latte-drinking/SUV-driving-while-chatting-on-the-cellphone-while-cutting-you-off twits we see everywhere.

And the bad news? They're BREEDING.

Yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiipe!

Well Read wrote:

You're obviously not a parent, if you are; I'm sure your kids are suffering.

so what if he's not a parent? if you thinks strollers are ok in a race, then you clearly are one of the biggest threats to your own child(ren), as well as to everyone else around you. your children should fear for for their safety under your watch.

Well Read wrote:

And stick those nusiance kids in a day care, don't try parenting them or including them in your activities.

Parenting them doesn't include endangering them. "Most" of the people are in some type of crowd and are putting others and/or their child in danger. Simple as that. Parenting means choosing responsible activities to bring them to. If you can't do that consider birth control. You need to get life (and a sitter).

You can't take kids in your lap on a ferris wheel or circus ride, do you consider that tantimount to outlawing black people? How about taking your child in a race with one of the retractable leashes I see people with? Would you consider that dangerous? How would it be different than a stroller?

In any case it's not "overzealous race directors", it's race directors that are trying to put on a safe event for the bulk of the people participating, not pander to some selfish ones. Race directors who do not control the safety of their course can face financial ruin. While only 3-4 races get sued every year nationally, at least one each year is from a "wheeled participant", usually a baby jogger user.

If a RD isn't prudent and loses the crap shoot, they stand to lose everything because it's rarely covered by insurance. If it's "overzealous" to consider the financial health of your business, family, or club more important that the happiness of a few baby jogger users, call me overzealous. If you think adding $3-5 to the entry fee of EACH PARTICIPANT in order to allow a few baby joggers in is wise, then direct your own races.

Last time I tried for that insurance (at the request of the charity organizing the race) it was 4 times the standard rate (nearly $2000 vs $500). How about we allow baby joggers in, but on race day they have to write a check for the extra insurance divided evenly between all the wheeled participants? That sound fair?

As I said earlier, I'm all for baby joggers. I thiuk they're great. If you want your kids to participant in your activities take them out in the neighborhood for a nice run, just don't take them to a race.

Well Read wrote:

The point is that most people who bring their kids to races are at the back of the pack and are not 'racing'. Don't generalize to the entire population. You Americans are becoming a bunch of produce nothing legally bound idiots full of rules.

"Dont generalize to an entire population."

"You Americans..."

Who's generalizing?

Are you this stupid in person, or just online?

I direct a race in a major city and I get USATF insurance as our local running club help to sponsor it. The insurace agreement does not allow baby joggers, dogs, inline skates and headsets

race director2 wrote:

I direct a race in a major city and I get USATF insurance as our local running club help to sponsor it. The insurace agreement does not allow baby joggers, dogs, inline skates and headsets

RRCA insurance doesn't allow it either. Few carriers offer it. Insurance for tri's must be amazing, no wonder most of them are so pricy. Most bike "events" around here don't call themselves "races" to try to skirt insurance issues. They say on the app; must obey all traffic signs and signals, no drafting, etc. Imagine a road race where you had to stay on the sidewalk and obey traffic signals?

I leave my baby with the maid. People told it a kid would change my life. In what way?

Well Read wrote:

The point is that most people who bring their kids to races are at the back of the pack and are not 'racing'. Don't generalize to the entire population. What's next for you overzealous race directors? No foreigners? No Blacks. You Americans are becoming a bunch of produce nothing legally bound idiots full of rules.

You're an idiot.

Good point. And I wonder if parents realize how unstable baby joggers can be. I watched one start to wobble on its front wheel going down a steep hill; the runner couldn't control it; the unit crashed, and the baby was thrown. The baby appeared ok, but it was scary.

Reminds me of that old twisted nursery rhyme...

Yeah, so it is ok to generalize all americans on this board. I think you need to "read" more and get out more instead of harboring such irrational hate towards americans.

Well Read wrote:

The point is that most people who bring their kids to races are at the back of the pack and are not 'racing'. Don't generalize to the entire population. What's next for you overzealous race directors? No foreigners? No Blacks. You Americans are becoming a bunch of produce nothing legally bound idiots full of rules.

I have an IVY League Education and I have two kids and I read one book a day. In my lifetime, I've read 7500 books. I got perfect scores on both the SAT and the ACT. I am a gynocologist and a radiologist. I won $86,700 on Jeopardy in 1997. I a smarter than all of you combined.

Yeah, but I bag lots of smart babes.

Try this one on, Madame Curie.

Well Read wrote:

I have an IVY League Education and I have two kids and I read one book a day. In my lifetime, I've read 7500 books.

Well George, didn't know you posted here. I'm sorry, but reading "My Pet Goat" 7500 times doesn't count. Nice try though.

Well Read wrote: I got perfect scores on both the SAT and the ACT. I am a gynocologist and a radiologist. I won $86,700 on Jeopardy in 1997. I a smarter than all of you combined.

I think you spelled "Cat in the Hat" sideways, but I'll give you half credit. Listening to pussies on talk radio doesn't count either, but it sure sounds impressive when you say it that way. I'll have to use that some time after a long drive. As far as Jeopardy, I've done pretty good on the home game myself a few times. I hope you realize that's not real money. If you try to spend it, they'll arrest you.

Thats why they tell runners with strollers to sign up for the walk instead of the run.

jesuschristo morons, don't give a troll the satisfaction of a response. if he had an IVY league education, his arguements would be better (slippery slope, man, ya know?). not to mention, if he did go to an ivy, he'd know not to capitalize it for effect, and likely would feel the need to brag about which one he attended... unless he went to brown ;) if he read a book a day, he'd never have time to bitch to you on this board. if he won that much $$ on TV, he wouldn't have to dignify you all with a response. learn what sarcasm is, people. it goes like this: "the red sox are the greatest team ever!" "indeed." see?

and just in case...

you don't have to be elite to be elitist.

Well Read wrote:

I a smarter than all of you combined.

Oh...You are smarter than all of us? So smart that you left off the consonant letter "m" in "I a smarter than..." Great display of grammatical intelligence.