Which was more impressive Killians Hardrock CR or Emma Coburn's AR

simon peter wrote:

I've never heard of Hardrock.

I have heard of the Steeplechase.

RunTiger wrote:

The simple fact is that there are 14 year old girls who would beat this guy in a mile race.

Can 14 year old girls summit Denali from base camp in under 10 hours?

Can they climb like this:

Or ski like this:

What I like about Kilian is that he's a very multidimensional endurance athlete. I get the feeling that Kilian is going to be enjoying the mountains long after his racing is over. While some other runners who are obsessed about on this board will quit running running and athletic pursuits shortly after they win State or NCAAs.

The typical M.O. of these guys like Kilian and Carpenter is that they rarely or never post a standardized, verifiable time. Well, not strictly true, because Carpenter tried several flatland marathons and averaged somewhere around 2:50 with an outlier of about 2:20 (he has a website where he lists every one). We'll probably never find out if Kilian can beat a pretty good high school girl or an eighth grade boy, because he ain't gonna risk being exposed by doing your standard 5k.

jornetski wrote:

While some other runners who are obsessed about on this board will quit running running and athletic pursuits shortly after they win State or NCAAs.

I haven't run more than ~1 mile at a time since running 4:15 at state 6 years ago.

That's comical thinking about the worlds greatest endurance athlete running circles around a man-made synthetic surface jumping over a fake water pit.

LFK wrote:

simon peter wrote:

I've never heard of Hardrock.

I have heard of the Steeplechase.

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Hardrock+100

Sorry. My full quote:

I've never heard of Hardrock, nor do I give a single fvck about it since I can deduce it is an ultra race from this thread.

Don't bother defending ultra runners. These nerds think they're better athletes than Lebron James. You really think they will acknowledge an ultra runner? What's most amusing to me is that the average guy ripping elite ultra guys on Letsrun can probably run 16 or 17 5k. The guys running 13 minutes take running less seriously than you nerds.

Matt Carpenter is/was legit. You can't compare Killian to Carpenter. Killian has much to prove. Yes, Carpenter ran a 2:18 marathon and ran in the US Olympic marathon trials.

Which is more impressive, the world's largest apple or the world's largest orange?

moron wrote:

Anyone who says Hardrock needs mental help.

Kudos to Emma, but seeing that her AR is not the fastest time in the world, or this year, or even this race, you have to respect what Killian just did.

And tell us why you think she resembles your mother.

Any decent (very good) male runner can run circles around any good American female distance runner. It is like when the 200th ranked tennis player played Serena Williams and beat her 6-0 and 6-1 and he was not even serving hard. Males are vastly superior athletes. Ever watch the WNBA?

extravagance is easy, excellence is hard. +1 for Emma.

What is sad is you actually know what those terms are. Deal in fantasy much?

jrrt wrote:

get sed to it. wrote:

He is 5'7"

Allegedly, yes. And it may look that way to you, and indeed to most. It is a camouflage, a sort of glamour. It was Carriphinnor, or perhaps Er'yon, who are said to be the tallest who have ever come from those people. Kilian is a full head shorter than the marks attributed to them on the Wall of Records, in the Great Keep behind Rauros Falls.

Guys on this board at not winning state, let alone the NCAA's. I agree with the rest.

jornetski wrote:

RunTiger wrote:

The simple fact is that there are 14 year old girls who would beat this guy in a mile race.

Can 14 year old girls summit Denali from base camp in under 10 hours?

Can they climb like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwyFPb1VRx4

Or ski like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lNQ_PWx7bg

What I like about Kilian is that he's a very multidimensional endurance athlete. I get the feeling that Kilian is going to be enjoying the mountains long after his racing is over. While some other runners who are obsessed about on this board will quit running running and athletic pursuits shortly after they win State or NCAAs.

A lot of women have run the steeplechase and actually try to do it as fast as they can. Emma has done this event faster than any other American woman in history and is in the top 11 world wide all time.

There are probably only a couple dozen different people who actually really try to do this Hardrock Cafe race in a fast time (relatively speaking).

So Killian or whoever is swimming in a very very small pond. Kudos to him for being the biggest fish there but it is not in the same conversation as what Emma just did.

the skiing isnt very impressive, im sure plenty of 14 year old girls could show that guy how its done, climbing is pretty cool

jornetski wrote:

Can 14 year old girls summit Denali from base camp in under 10 hours?

Can they climb like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwyFPb1VRx4

Or ski like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lNQ_PWx7bg

What I like about Kilian is that he's a very multidimensional endurance athlete. I get the feeling that Kilian is going to be enjoying the mountains long after his racing is over. While some other runners who are obsessed about on this board will quit running running and athletic pursuits shortly after they win State or NCAAs.

What you morons don't understand is that it is a smaller pool because it is hard. World wide there are millions and millions of trail runners who would love to have the balls to finish a 100 mile race let alone win them and set course records. You don't bust Bolt's chops for not running 5ks because his body wasn't designed for it. So why bust on ultra runners who you laugh at for not sunning sub 2:15 marathons? I actually know the answer to this' it is because you can't successfully train for a 50 or 100 miler or are just too plain lazy because the training is hard.

I would say Emma because more competition in that AR really as simple as that. I get the sense people might say Hardrock because they think going up a hill is inherently tougher in some way. What makes a competition tough is always about how fast its done not the course. I probably have to add you have to be trying at the time too to make people believe its the new standard as hardrock continues to have a question mark :)

Did Emma win her race?