Kenenisa Bekele: how soon will he totally annihilate the distance WR's?

we could make a list of runners who ran INCREDIBLE times as juniors and never got faster: remember ismael kirui, richard chelimo, raymond yator, etc. (i'm doing this off the top of my head, so i'm forgetting a lot of people)... looking at their times, even guys like sammy kipketer and milion wolde are stagnating... most world junior record holders do NOT get faster, so extrapolation/speculation is futile-- geb is an EXCEPTION, not the NORM...

Assessor and Mtn Dew

I think alot of the readers agree that Kenensia is an awesome young runner; however, it seem that not many of them understand how special. This are the facts that led me to assume he will rewrite the world distance records:

1.) The stamina and speed at 17 years to run 7:30.67 and 13:13.33 at 18 only 5000m that year.

2.) Incredible foot speed.

3.) The EASE at which he dispatched and toyed with the short and long World X-Country fields.** (Remember the Kenyans coach said he was sending out a runner to tire Kenenisa, but the Kenenisa and John Yuda never let anyone else in front of them.)**

4.) The margin of his victories over accomplished TRACK ATHLETES in x-country.

5.) His ability to run well on any surface:

X-Country: every meet he runs

Road: 13:07 Ekiden leg

Track: 7:30.67, 13:13.33, and 7:45 and 7:46 in 2001

6.) The fact that he accomplished something with his easy double at the World X-Country that Paul Tergat, Geb, Mourhit, John Ngugi, or anyone else was able to achieve.

Now read 1, 5, and 6 again. Kenenisa have the ability to break the records now lets wait and see if stays healthy long enough to break them.

Vipam

MERRY CHRISTMAS

What are Jos Hermans connections to the Euro cycling world. Also, I have seen his name come up here before in the same drug context of Rosa? Why?

All I know about him is he was a top runner in the seventies, held the WR for the hour run, and has been a top agent or track promoter in Europe.

What did I miss, or did he rrepresent Komen or some other athlete accused but never failing a drug test (oh I forgot that Komen drank a pot of coffee once and flunked)

Tergat ran 26:27 at Brussels in 97\', not 26:29. Just to be accurate. As for when Bekele will break any WR\'s...I would hope to see him at least \"scare\" a couple WR\'s this spring, but the following track season is an Olympic year and I doubt he\'ll go after any WR\'s in 2004.

ahhh dude the great Tergat ran 26:27.85 not what ever quoted like 26:29.

I am positive Sammy Kipketer and Kenenisa Bekele could threaten the 10k World Record in the next 2 years if they so desired!

Vipam

I wonder who will finish second to Kenenisa at the Jan 4

x-country meet and how far ahead he will be. My guess

1st place and 58 seconds (close huh).

Ahhhh, Vipam, you just proved your youth. I had thought you were a youngin' after you listed your "favorite runners" in an earlier thread, because few adults would actually have a "list of fav's," but was not positive. Anyway, why do I think this? Because when Tergat, Ngugi, etc won their titles in CC, there was no 4 kilometer race...so they could not even attempt to win 'both' races. Cross was a toughman sport, only 1 race - 12K - for all the runners.

That is all.

"Ahhhh, Vipam, you just proved your youth. I had thought you were a youngin' after you listed your "favorite runners" in an earlier thread, because few adults would actually have a "list of fav's," but was not positive. Anyway, why do I think this? Because when Tergat, Ngugi, etc won their titles in CC, there was no 4 kilometer race...so they could not even attempt to win 'both' races. Cross was a toughman sport, only 1 race - 12K - for all the runners."

OWNED!

Jason

Sir, the only individual who wasn't able to attempt the double that I mention was John Ngugi (retired). The other names mentioned are individuals who are still competing and

still have not completed the double. The fact of the matter is it is out there for them to accomplish and rather by choice or not they have not accomplished that feat of long and short x-country champion! As for a list Jason everyone has a list of just about everything: Likes, dislikes, favorites foods, songs, actors/actress etc (must keep the lists mentally); however, I simply stated my favorties athletes and listed them.

Back to the subject at hand I THINK Kenenisa has more ability than Geb once he matures fully. The 3000m, 5000m,

and 10000m athletes will become very familiar with him as their target to beat.

Does anyone know Kenenisa Bekele 1500m Pr?

and ya reckon hes 18???

hahahaha

fuggetabootit

Beware of Jan 4, 2003 Kenenisa will do what no athlete has been able to do in 2000-upstage Paula Radcliffe. The Radcliffe season debut against Derartu Tulu will take backseat to the dominating presence of Kenenisa Bekele at the Great Run.

To all the Bekele supporters I agree with you on your assessment of his talents. Kenenisa is a fairly unknown

super talent and his limits are unknown also and I wager that in the next two years he will reveal how talented he really is. Kenenisa will force other countries to target him out in Major Championships and his own countrymen will tire of him winning every Major title. YOU WILL ALL SEE!

Iagree

I don't think any is doubting his ability dude.

Mtn Dew wrote:

peter buniak wrote:

im going to go there: if anyone thinks geb's records were set without the use of "illegal" drugs (be it EPO and/or otherwise), you're living in a dreamworld, soporific somnolence, a cloud in trousers...

I pity you. You're so cynical. Just b/c someone runs well, faster than you con comprehend, they are drugged. I'd hate to live your sad life.

Mr. Dew - Mr. Buniak also doesn't live in a shangri-la world in which it is inconceivable that the aforementioned Geb was using EPO. That would be pretty sad also.

To each his own.

Iagree

I also think Kenenisa will do great things; however, you sound like all GOLD MEDALS for the next 8-10 years should be wrapped and shipped to him early. There is a great chance that he will dominate and also a chance another talent will blossom and challenge Kenenisa! I do think he will force everyone else to be ready to challenge the ALL-TIME 10 LIST (2000, 3000, 5000m) every race he wants; however, he will lose once in a while.

Vipam

Geb was clean, eh? Let's see, the EPO test is announced, and all of a sudden, he's injured! He's human! He's losing races! THEN, it's announced that the test isn't all that effective, and Geb is again winning, looking inhuman, and his perfermances, and those of the rest of the best "responders" to EPO coached by Hermens, Rosa and crew begin to get mighty quick again. Nah, they aren't on drugs. Just because living in E. Africa helps one avoid true spot testing, doesn't mean a thing! Kenyans would never touch an aspirin - and don't bring up all the drug addicts and alcoholics one sees in Nairobi. They ... they don't count. Now go pick on those darn Moroccans and Algerians. That's ok, because they're Arab Muslims. And we know how the media types hate them. They're the only dirty ones, right? Just because Rosa fled cycling during an investigation of his riders, and turns up leading armies of Kenyan runners 18 months later doesn't mean a thing. Just because Hermens was known as a "drug daredevil" doesn't mean he would ever lead the charge of Ethiopians down the wrong path ...

Bekele's march toward records will be determined by training and yes, his "ergogenic" aid protocol. Something that runners in the States and Europe would have a bit more trouble doing due to the threat of real spot tests.

Gilgamesh

Oh my I am absolutely stunned that your sheer genius cracked the case of the winning Africans. You will most definetly win the Pulitzer and become the President of the

Greatly Mistaken Land of Nowhere. Come on life is not that bad where you have to find fault in everything, especially the things you love (you are a track fan right?).

Rosa, Geb, Kenyans, Ethopians, U.S., and Kenenisa Rule!

Also shout outs to Paula, Regina, IAAF, Khalid, Vincent Rousseau, Gaby, Gete and oh yeah Kenenisa Bekele.