Irish Sprinter tests positive for EPO

boston legal wrote:

Stephen Colvert? Who's he? Seriously? For an Irish man living abroad when I hear of an Irish athlete in the news I want it to be the likes of Mark English, Paul Robinson, Thomas Barr or O'Lionaird running fast times, winning medals or breaking Irish records, not something like this.

Oh, Colvert? He's on right after the Daily Show with Jon Stewvart.

trollist the third wrote:

it enhances their endurance, so that they can do more reps. also aids in recovery.

This ^^^ EPO still has a positive effect for sprinters

The Geomathematician wrote:

No no no. Not EVERY athlete. Only athletes who aren't really really good. I mean, if you're faster than like 12:57, or 27:15, or 58:46, or 2:10, EPO doesn't help you. Up till then, who knows, it might.

The real drug is the coach. You just don't understand the culture.

No, EPO helps every athlete no matter what level, you're never too fast for EPO to help you, where did you get this logic from?

Come on, you don't recognize the great wisdom of the master coach Renato Canova? But yeah, that's who I got it from.

Those were Kisorio's PRs I used, by the way.

I have always been skeptic about MJ performances. With so many sprinters being busted for PEDs, it seems like MJ was untouchable. He is smart enough to keep his mouth shut and don't get in conflicts with his coaches or PED suppliers.

The Geomathematician wrote:

Those were Kisorio's PRs I used, by the way.

Which he set cleanly.

The Geomathematician wrote:

No no no. Not EVERY athlete. Only athletes who aren't really really good. I mean, if you're faster than like 12:57, or 27:15, or 58:46, or 2:10, EPO doesn't help you. Up till then, who knows, it might.

And thyroid medication magically stops working when you reach normal, which is around 26:44.

copa del rey wrote:

He should've gone to Lidl!

Multivitamins? He wouldn't of bought any because he would've been distracted by the random things they have on offer every month. Like a pair of skis (cool!), nylon strung guitar and stand (awesome!), even a pair of binoculars! I love the place!

He'd have gotten more benefit from buying some Black Forest Gateau, Gelatelli ice cream dome cake, massive tub of Greek yoghurt, continental beer (yummie), snacky crackies, a massive Stollen and bag of Lebkuchen.

By the way, props to John Lenihan, the greatest Irish mountain runner ever. Not bad on the flat either.

What the hell has John Linihan got to do with anything? A stone mad lad running up and down mountains. Good choice with the Black Forest Gateau though, great shout!

dunloy wrote:

what's this all about, more importantly sligo are playing galway on skysports tomorrow evening, they'll be a few interested in that!

Ha wait until Sky Sports start showing the likes of the All Ireland Novice Cross Country, Leevale sports and maybe even the turkey trot from Mohill in Leitrim.

aduck2022 wrote:

why would a sprinter need endurance !!!!!!!!

ask michael johnson , or 400mh record hurdler.

no way would he of ran 200m time without epo

for speed endurance

"Would he of ran"? Wtf? Are you 6 years old or something?

Which he set cleanly.

Of course Kisorio set his PRs cleanly. He probably got much worse when he started using EPO. Yeah. Makes sense to me, since EPO doesn't actually help elite athletes. That's why he started using it.

Not very bright, are you?

The Geomathematician wrote:

Which he set cleanly.

Of course Kisorio set his PRs cleanly. He probably got much worse when he started using EPO. Yeah. Makes sense to me, since EPO doesn't actually help elite athletes. That's why he started using it.

Not very bright, are you?

You're wrong on two accoutns.

First of all, what I said was correct, he set his PRs cleanly. He started doping after the 2012 Boston Marathon and ran a horrible ~28:40 10k or something like that. His PRs were long before doping.

Second of all, he did not use EPO, he used a steroid. Double wrong.

So yes, I am quite bright, and you're twice as dumb as you thought I was. Please refrain from posting on the boards in the future. Thanks.

Yes, he definitely only started doping then. We can trust his word on that, because reasons.

Nope. Gotta be pretty dumb to believe that.

Second, he tested positive for an anabolic steroid, true, but here is a quote from him about his regimen. "I know that a lot of medical substances are used, which are injected straight to the blood for the body to have more oxygen."

Weird. What could some of these mysterious substances be? Not EPO, of course.

But yeah, most likely EPO. Sorry that your reading comprehension couldn't pick that out. At least you finally got it explained to you, so that's a plus.

Conor F wrote:

By the way most people I've spoken to about Colvert genuinely believe this is a case of cross-contamination in his supplements, after all, he bought them from Aldi of all places. I'm not sure I believe this...

I'm an athlete, I've decided to go on to a PED regime.

I'm not the sharpest tool in the shed but I'm smart enough to realise I might get caught which means I've got to have a ready made excuse. I also know it helps if I come across as a good/nice person, being overtly religious helps.

The Geomathematician wrote:

Yes, he definitely only started doping then. We can trust his word on that, because reasons.

Nope. Gotta be pretty dumb to believe that.

If you don't trust Kisorio's word, then why would you be quoting him? You can't just pick and choose which parts of his story are true and false to suit your own needs.

And it's cute that you think EPO is the only substance "injected directly to the blood." Really adorable.

If you had taken my advice and stopped posting you could have avoided looking like an idiot again.

The Geomathematician wrote:

Weird. What could some of these mysterious substances be? Not EPO, of course.

But yeah, most likely EPO.

In his case "not EPO", whichever way you chose to word it, because "he tested positive for an anabolic steroid".

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I don't think that EPO is the only substance injected directly into the blood. I do think that EPO is among the substances injected directly into the blood to increase oxygen supply...which matches what he said. Stop being deliberately obtuse, even though you may not be able to help it.

I'm listening to what he is saying about the drugs he took because he's not doing himself any favors by talking about them. He is, though, making himself look better by saying he starting doping after his PRs. (Could I get where exactly he said that? By the way, just him saying that he started doping after Boston doesn't mean he wasn't before).

In your rush to be convinced that I'm an idiot, you're still not doing your reading comprehension any favors.

In his case "not EPO", whichever way you chose to word it, because "he tested positive for an anabolic steroid".

I'm not choosing to word anything, it's Kisorio who was saying that. Yes, he -tested- positive for an anabolic steroid...but, he was obviously also using EPO. Because of what his quote described. Pretty obvious.

I think everyone knows that sometimes people don't test positive for things they are using. Or is that just too subtle of a concept for you?

Did reading comprehension really fall this far this fast? Geez people, it's not that hard.