What about Renato Canova? How could that idiot assign high mileage for his runners when he isn't a runner. Someone should let him know what a moron he is being.
What about Renato Canova? How could that idiot assign high mileage for his runners when he isn't a runner. Someone should let him know what a moron he is being.
Bowerman, Daniels, Vigil, Coe, O'Colm, Ron Pickering, Peter Eriksson, God
Does anyone know the backgrounds of the following?
Dr. Yilma Berta (Haile) and Alex Stanton (Radcliffe)
Caged wrote:
They were all runners, they just weren't good runners, so they stopped running and concentrated on coaching.
Daniels was a pentathlete. Bowerman was a football player. O'Colm never ran.
sloallk wrote:
What about Renato Canova? How could that idiot assign high mileage for his runners when he isn't a runner. Someone should let him know what a moron he is being.
I love Canova's 3:27.2 1500m.
While I can appreciate the sentiment that you wouldn't want someone to tell you to do something they wouldn't/couldn't do themselves it's a bit short-sighted. I've often found that those with the best running credentials make the worst coaches. They had the talent and just did it. Hard to relay that to someone who doesn't have that talent level. In my experience, the best coaches are the mediocre talents that had success because they figured out how to structure training that worked for them and knows the basic framework to do that for others. This is extremely prevalent in the NBA where you see guys like Doc Rivers make excellent coaches when they were solid but not marquis players (Steve Kerr, etc.).
A good coach, regardless of sport, should:
1) have a willingness to learn/study the sport they're administering. This COULD be in the form of first hand experience, but as others have said sometimes isn't the most effective way.
2) have a willingness to listen to their athletes. Coaches that don't think they have anything to learn from their athletes aren't going to be successful.
3) have a passion to see their athletes succeed, to learn from mistakes, and to be compassionate to those in their charge.
practice what you preech wrote:
fact: nobody should coach track or xc unless they, personally, used to be a competitive runner.
OK, the world has already had one Eliot Rodger. We don't need any more.
bgsnbnn wrote:
sloallk wrote:What about Renato Canova? How could that idiot assign high mileage for his runners when he isn't a runner. Someone should let him know what a moron he is being.
I love Canova's 3:27.2 1500m.
Renato actually was a runner, with am 800 PR that's all of 2:10, or so he said. I was a 4/8 guy in D1 with a time just under 1:50, like a bunch of folks on the large sub-2 thread.
So why do all of those medalists want to train with a relative jogger? If running experience is all that matters, there are certainly a bunch of faster people here.
BTW, what about Mark Wetmore? His resume at cubuffs.com doesn't mention any running experience. Who would want to run for a know-nothing like that?
practice what you preech wrote:
fact: nobody should coach track or xc unless they, personally, used to be a competitive runner.
That's not a "fact". What you state is an "opinion".
As a coach who runs, I would say that you need to work on thinking positively, then you will make positive statements and get positive results from your own training, as well as be a help to your teammates who would like to win the championship. An example of a positive statement would be: "I really respect coaches who are runners and can kick butt."
practice what you preech wrote:
fact: nobody should coach track or xc unless they, personally, used to be a competitive runner.
A Coach Who Runs wrote:
As a coach who runs, I would say that you need to work on thinking positively, then you will make positive statements and get positive results from your own training, as well as be a help to your teammates who would like to win the championship. An example of a positive statement would be: "I really respect coaches who are runners and can kick butt."
Worse than coaches who've never run are coaches who glorify themselves.
A few years ago, there was an interesting thread on another message board about "what separated Salazar and Seko as coaches."
Seko wants his runners to replicate the success he achieved as a runner.
Salazar wants his runners to avoid the mistakes he made as a runner.
That's the huge difference between the two.
practice what you preech wrote:
fact: nobody should coach track or xc unless they, personally, used to be a competitive runner.
Not a fact.
um, ever heard of joe vigil?
you were just asking to get pwned
really cool opinion wrote:
you were just asking to get pwned
Yeah.
Or trolling.
BTW: 7/10. A solid effort.
Wetmore ran in high school and college for a year.
Obviously he wasn't elite but he wasn't exactly Bowerman.
Then again you're rarely right about anything you post.