runners that SMOKE

Wncmtnrnr wrote:

SMJO wrote:

Michel Jazy was a smoker and he ran OK.

As was Jesse Owens.

So was Herb Elliot.

i wonder how mine look - considering i double everyday, dont smoke 2 or even 1 pack daily, and choose rollies

So smokers are suffocating! THAT's WHY IT'S BAD FOR YOU!

2014 It is about time people understand that if you smoke your

F-ing SUFFOCATING! DUH!

You got some potential if you want to be really fast. It's all up to you.

Now that I've read the full study, I wonder if it actually simulates hypobaria as well (red cell oxygen affinity is much lower in smokers - similar to high altitude sherpas) - people who know more about this stuff can correct me. Note that the smokers were more than a pack a day.It's pretty striking how much higher the red cell mass in smokers is - even though I posted my last post with tongue in cheek, it's evidence (for me at least) that it could have contributed to Bill Rodgers's development. Heck - I didn't even know that people actually participate in carbon monoxide doping! (http://bikepure.org/2012/08/5635/). What the heck is wrong with people?The message to the OP is, stop (if you can) and you might be surprised at the results after your body sloowwwly readjusts to "sea level."

No wrote:

You are looking at this from one side.Blood values are not be all and end all of performance.Smokers have severe tissue damage and capacity issues that make oxygen uptake very difficult.Have you seen smokers lungs on the back of the packs.

Won't ever reach your potential while smoking. The health benefits of quitting are huge and almost instant.

Quit before dedicating himself to serious training.

Letswhine wrote:

So was Herb Elliot.

That doesn't seem to be the case... apparently he didn't quit smoking in earnest until after he had already set a mile (3:54.5) and 1500m (3:36.0) world record in 1958.http://www.racingpast.ca/john_contents.php?id=96“On 26th December [1958] I stopped smoking and started serious training at Portsea.” (Elliott, p.130)Also, apparently, he did a 33 mile training run.

Er... wrote:

Quit before dedicating himself to serious training.

Letswhine wrote:

So was Herb Elliot.

[quote]kanny wrote:

Now that I've read the full study, I wonder if it actually simulates hypobaria as well (red cell oxygen affinity is much lower in smokers - similar to high altitude sherpas) - people who know more about this stuff can correct me. Note that the smokers were more than a pack a day.

It's pretty striking how much higher the red cell mass in smokers is - even though I posted my last post with tongue in cheek, it's evidence (for me at least) that it could have contributed to Bill Rodgers's development. Heck - I didn't even know that people actually participate in carbon monoxide doping! (http://bikepure.org/2012/08/5635/). What the heck is wrong with people?

The message to the OP is, stop (if you can) and you might be surprised at the results after your body sloowwwly readjusts to "sea level."

Carbon monoxide doping!!!This is insane, will smoking now become a doping fail excuse.As for returning to "sea level", this could take years to get back to after quitting by which time any bloodcount measurements would have probably fallen, not sure and open to correction.

Steve Jones was an ex smoker when he set the record.

4:18/9:13/25:30

Smoke about an eighth, quarter once a month.

Reefer Madness wrote:

4:18/9:13/25:30

Smoke about an eighth, quarter once a month.

oops, meant about an eighth a week, and sometimes a quarter in a week but only once a month. too high to be posting...

Reefer Madness wrote:

Reefer Madness wrote:

4:18/9:13/25:30

Smoke about an eighth, quarter once a month.

oops, meant about an eighth a week, and sometimes a quarter in a week but only once a month. too high to be posting...

Exact same here, by my PRs are a little worse and at different distances. I smoke .5 g per day, like clockwork. Probably about 5-10 cigs per week as well. 15:41/1:13:47/2:39:49.

It's like weight training for your lungs.

Favorite po-dunk road race I ever ran, the female winner was smoking a cigarette during the awards.

Would stopping on race days improve my performance or am i just fooling myself to be able to do both?Can't believe that some top class elites smoke. The shame of this for me is so bad that very few of my team-mates know.Can't imagine what this is like for a pro.

vo2killer wrote:

I smoke a pack and a half a day and was wondering how much i would improve if i quit.I am 25 and have been running for 2 years.My pb's are 36/10k,1.20/half and 17.32/5k.Anyone have experience with this?

I've been running for years and there have been periods where I have smoked a pack a day, periods where I smoked a pack and also smoked gram(s) of weed in a day, periods where I only smoked gram(s) of weed, periods where I smoked cigarettes occasionally, and periods of no smoking whatsoever.

I hardly ever smoke before running anymore but am referring to periods where I have done both concurrently

In my experience there is no doubt that smoking detriments performance (cigarettes more so than weed). During the periods when I'm smoking I can still run workouts and hammer out 60+ mile weeks but I can tell that my body is handicapped.

It feels as either my blood isn't carrying as much oxygen or my muscles can't process it as well. This may not be what is actually happening physiologically but it makes sense to me.

Regardless, I know that when I'm not smoking at all I run faster, and feel better doing it.

My PR's are pretty similar to yours... 5k 16:45 10k 35:00.. both set while not smoking. I would assume that if you quit smoking and kept everything else the same within 6 months you could bring your 5k time down 45+ seconds and 10k time down at least 1:15

On a side note, contrary to what people have suggested on this thread, I have noticed that smoking affects anaerobic far more than aerobic. By this I mean I can feel lactic acid build quicker and quicker fatigue from anaerobic workouts when I'm smoking where I don't see nearly as big of a handicap during a long interval workout (800+) or tempo runs

But he was still "on a self-proclaimed non-diet of Mars bars, Coca Cola and meat pies."

British Record wrote:

Steve Jones was an ex smoker when he set the record.

Here is a runner who smokes, for those of you who aren't in the know:

http://dailyadventuresgretch.blogspot.com/2008/09/lynryd-skynrod-interview-with-real-deal.html

http://renorunner.com/

https://www.facebook.com/RunnersWorld/posts/144412882050

Reefer Madness wrote:

4:18/9:13/25:30

Smoke about an eighth, quarter once a month.

Train high, race low.