ask him if you can drink soda
ask him if you can drink soda
sam w wrote:
ask him if you can drink soda
Can we hijack this thread into one that is about regional names for carbonated beverages???
Pop
Sodapop
Soda
Others?
Liquid candy is all it is..sometimes with fake sugar..sometimes real sugar...never good for you
I would think a can of soda pop has saved my ass many days.
Stupid things I read:
The implication that soda dehydrates you.
It does not dehydrate.
If you are days on the desert and are dehydrating from exposure do you think a 6 pack of coke will Kill you or save you? and why?
I ain't no EP but I would bet that Sugar and water and bubbles are probably something the body can deal with.
And what the hell is an empty calorie?
One of my tried and trusted morning pre-race foods is 2 snicker bars.
Taste great, less filling, you can find them anywhere, much cheaper than powerbars(BTW for a long time I thought a power bar was those things you kept on your steering wheel to keep your car from getting ripped)
I stutter wrote:
sam w wrote:ask him if you can drink soda
Can we hijack this thread into one that is about regional names for carbonated beverages???
Pop
Sodapop
Soda
Others?
in some parts of the country they call it ALL "coke." you have orange coke, regular coke, grape coke, its all coke.
now xerox me 4 copies of this thread.
(1) Siimple sugars = bad.
(2) Caffeine (colas and Mountain Dew) = diuretic.
(3) Some research suggests carbonation diminishes your ability to transport oxygen.
(4) Other research suggests it may contribute to osteoporosis.
(5) If you're drinking soda, you're not drinking something healthy, such as water and sports drinks (as another poster suggested). Don't forget that sodium to avoid hyponatremia!
does the CO2 from a soda actually enter the bloodstream or does it just pass? if it doesn't enter your bloodstream it can't alter your biochemistry.
Ummm... Phosphoric acid anyone?? I've heard that it leaches the calcium from your bones and makes you succeptable to stress fractures and osteoperosis. Any studies??
Ghost of Ashenfelter wrote:
(1) Siimple sugars = bad.
(2) Caffeine (colas and Mountain Dew) = diuretic.
(3) Some research suggests carbonation diminishes your ability to transport oxygen.
(4) Other research suggests it may contribute to osteoporosis.
(5) If you're drinking soda, you're not drinking something healthy, such as water and sports drinks (as another poster suggested). Don't forget that sodium to avoid hyponatremia!
Overhyped generalizations turned into humorous paranoia.
A can of coke never killed any one, and a couple of them with a peanut butter sandwich after a hot 100-120 minute run, always seemed to about hit the spot.
uuuuh...you don't think sports drinks contain simple sugars???? They're not much more than overpriced Kool-Aid. duh.
Drink what you want. pshaw.
whaaat? who says soda pop?? i call everything coke.
I think all major arguments against it have been stated. The ones I believe most meaningful are:
substitution - if soda is used as a beverage, something nutritionally better is not being used (juice or water & food);
the phosphoric acid argument is esp. important for girls, the calcium leaching it may cause (not proven) certainly could contribute to osteporosis (and female athletes often tread a fine line between nutritional balance and problems);
the "caffiene dehydrates" argument has been mostly disproven, but who is to say that the very slight impact it is acknowledged to have won't make the difference in an athlete coming out second in a close finish;
I also think that natural foods, which by their nature are less pure (not purified to be processed), contain a broader variety of nutrients, so while both juice and soda are essentially sugar water, juice is the better choice.
It's not even real sugar (high fructose corn syrup is cool if you want diabetes and all, but otherwise not the wisest choice in the barrel). Why not just drink some water and juice and forget all this bubbly crap and Gatorade?
caffeine can help performance if taken in the right dosage. Pop is simply extra caleries and replaces water / sports drink- which are less calories and better for hydration.
it's no good for you,
and its called soda!!!! not pop, not soda pop, just soda
While I agree with Mike that 2 Snickers bars are a great pre-race meal, that a six-pack of Coke in the desert is a welcome antidote to dehydration, and that the body can deal with bubbly water, I do think it's possible that a can of soda can dehydrate you.
Osmosis is the method by which liquid goes into and out of cells: basically, water passes through a semi-permeable membrane to reach the area of greatest solute. So if you put a lot of sugar, salt, etc. into your bloodstream with a soda, its possible that the area of greater solute density will lie outside the cells, leading to a leaching of hydration--or at least it might inhibit the passage of the liquid to where it's most needed.
Of course, I'm stretching back a few years to college physiology ... and since I'm having a hard time even remembering what my professor's name was, take this post with a grain of salt (no pun intended).
Oh, and keep eating those Snickers bars!
My guess is that the coach does not want you consuming empty calories. Soda/pop/coke/whatever people want to call it offers nothing of nutritional value. Asking the coach is the best thing to do. Also, what is the coach going to do if you drink a soda?
As for other things posted...
Caffeine is not a powerful diuretic. Drinking a couple of cans of soda a day will have little if any impact on hydration status.
Soda is sugar dense unlike a sports drink. A soda has a larger % of sugar than a sport drink so the transit time is reduced.
Defizzing a coke is good because the carbonation can cause bloating in the stomach. Cyclists and others like a defizzed coke to get a little caffeine, a lot of sugar and just a different flavor.
How does the carbonation get into the bloodstream? This is ludicrous idea that has been around; probably from people with little actual knowledge of biology. As much as I like Lydiard, his knowledge of the finer points of physiology is severely lacking.
At what amount of phosphoric acid does it take to impact calcium? Probably more than 1 or 2 sodas a day. In other words, way overblown fear (just as is the diuretic effect).
Also,
Int J Sport Nutr. 1994 Mar;4(1):8-21. Related Articles, Links
Drinking behavior and exercise-thermal stress: role of drink carbonation.
Hickey MS, Costill DL, Trappe SW.
Human Performance Laboratory, East Carolina University, Greenville, NC 27858.
This study investigated the influence of drink carbonation and carbohydrate content on ad libitum drinking behavior and body fluid and electrolyte responses during prolonged exercise in the heat. Eight competitive male runners completed three 2-hr treadmill runs at 60% VO2max in an environmental chamber maintained at 30 degrees C and 40% RH. Three test drinks were used: 8% carbohydrate, low carbonation (8%-C); 8% carbohydrate, noncarbonated (8%-NC), and water (0%-NC). Blood samples were taken preexercise (0), at 60 and 120 min of exercise, and at 60 min of recovery (+60 min). The data suggest that while reports of heartburn tend to be higher on 8% carbohydrate drinks than on 0%-NC, this does not appear to be a function of drink carbonation. Similarly, the increased frequency of heartburn did not significantly reduce fluid consumption either during exercise or during a 60-min recovery period. Importantly, no differences were observed between fluid and electrolyte, or thermoregulatory responses to the three sport drinks. Thus, consumption of low-carbonation beverages does not appear to significantly influence drinking behavior or the related physiological responses during prolonged exercise in the heat.
Int J Sport Nutr. 1992 Sep;2(3):239-50. Related Articles, Links
The effects of a carbonated carbohydrate drink on gastric emptying, gastrointestinal distress, and exercise performance.
Zachwieja JJ, Costill DL, Beard GC, Robergs RA, Pascoe DD, Anderson DE.
Div. of Metabolism, Washington U. School of Medicine, St. Louis, MO 63110.
To determine the effect of a carbonated carbohydrate (CHO) drink on gastric function and exercise performance, eight male cyclists completed four 120-min bouts of cycling. Each bout consisted of a 105-min ride at 70% VO2max followed by a 15-min self-paced performance ride. During each trial, one of four test solutions was ingested: carbonated CHO (C-10%), noncarbonated CHO (NC-10%), carbonated non-CHO (C), and noncarbonated non-CHO (NC). Following the performance ride, the subjects had their stomach contents removed by aspiration. There were no significant differences in gastric emptying (GE) except for Trial C-10%, which averaged 13.3% less than NC. However, there was no difference in the perception of gastrointestinal comfort between this trial and any other. Average power output during the performance ride was not significantly different between carbonated and noncarbonated trials, or between CHO-fed and no-CHO trials; however, the subjects worked at a greater intensity when fed CHO. Finally, acid base status did not change when a carbonated drink was ingested. This indicates that adding carbonation to a sport drink does not significantly alter gastric function, the perception of GI comfort, or exercise performance.
No Fizz wrote:
Our high school coach won't let us drink soda pop during the season.
Count yourself lucky my coach won't let us do something else during the entire season. Not in pairs, not by yourself. And she says she will know.
It's addictive. It also can cause kidney stones. (It did that to me.) It rots and stains your teeth. It rots your stomach. Someone should sue Pepsi and Coke.
mplatt wrote:
Ghost of Ashenfelter wrote:(1) Simple sugars = bad.
(2) Caffeine (colas and Mountain Dew) = diuretic.
(3) Some research suggests carbonation diminishes your ability to transport oxygen.
(4) Other research suggests it may contribute to osteoporosis.
(5) If you're drinking soda, you're not drinking something healthy, such as water and sports drinks (as another poster suggested). Don't forget that sodium to avoid hyponatremia!
Overhyped generalizations turned into humorous paranoia.
A can of coke never killed any one, and a couple of them with a peanut butter sandwich after a hot 100-120 minute run, always seemed to about hit the spot.
stockboy wrote:
It's addictive.
OMFG, AAAAHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, It's addictive... AAAAHHHHHHH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....
God, you people are weak.