BIG Salazar/NOP claims in lawsuit!

He's a psycho. Reminds of Chris McDougal's "Born To Run", which was a collection of stories from the Internet put into a book and made money.

Pretty juicy stuff.

Travis Tygart gonna pick this up?

This guy is representing HIMSELF. He doesn't have a lawyer, this isn't an official court document. This is just one crazy guy from Portland who filed a lawsuit naming the CEO and cofounder of Nike as the primary defendants. This is going to get tossed out in an instant. About as substantive as the rumors that get aired on here.

So people now agree there is some cheating going on in Salazar's camp?:-)

NTHXC wrote:

Travis Tygart gonna pick this up?

ya.. and drop it in the trash can

info wrote:

So people now agree there is some cheating going on in Salazar's camp?:-)

YES and that Salazar has been an a hole for over 30 years

This is good entertainment if you want insight into a maniac's mind. I guess this is why they say someone who represents himself has an idiot for a client.You can't make this stuff up. Well, you can, and he does. My favorite part so far.

And, logically, since you can get on athletes in LV (can you? I might actually have an edge there), you should pay this dude for his shoe patent. I guess?

The rest is clearly lifted from LRC, in particular when A Duck went off the rails and tried to call out malmo.

He can't even get the name of the drug right.

Quoting:

"Malley has hard evidence in

the form of a prescription for “Winstol,” an anabolic steroid, to support his claim"

Good luck tracking down some "Winstol." I heard Malley had some Winstrol, though.

I also like the random use of... ellipses.

Good reading.

erik wrote:

This is good entertainment if you want insight into a maniac's mind. I guess this is why they say someone who represents himself has an idiot for a client.

[quote]147. In brief, one of the primary aims of individuals who cheat in sports is to win,

or perform at a level above and beyond their normal capabilities, in order to get fame,

blood doping can provide approximately a 3% boost in an individual’s

athletic performance level. This translates into about a 4 second advantage in a 4 minute

mile, 12 seconds in the 5,000 meters, 24 seconds in the 10,000 meters, and over 2

minutes in the Marathon event.

He's not too far off with the blood doping..

He was Steve Placencia*s coach. He's a kinda inventerer/tinkerer kinda guy. He wrote a screenplay about Percy Cerutty that he was trying to sell.

To answer your question, he did have a lot of high up access at Nike.

He wrote a book about running. You can buy a copy on Amazon.

He was also interviewed in the Ben Johnson documentary along with Bob Sevene. Check that out on youtube.

surely the piece about mo farah is mere tittle-tattle

a bottle in a bag..

Surprise! wrote:

It's regarding a patent for a shoe design. All that other shit will be disregarded.

Lol, "shoe design" cranks are known to be a dime a dozen.

At one point Nike used to look at ideas from outside, that almost NEVER happens now, and for it to happen you have to have a real great contact at Nike, and you have to get past the lawyers and sign docs stating you will not sue -- because it is possible Nike already has something similar in the works, or did at one point, or has a patent or a license etc. Plus, their a large mo-fo corporation with a lot of lawyers on the payroll so they are going to protect themselves from jump street.

Mostly now, it is insanely hard to present a shoe design to Nike.

IF there are any Nike people here from that side of things, they'll be able to post and confirm that the above paragraph is spot on.

If memory serves the stuff about Alberto and Prozac, and DHEA is all public domain.

The other stuff, there's too much to read.

If someone NOP ever tests positive, I'll stop posting here.

Even Malmo believes Salazar now. (You're welcome, George, happy to have gotten you back in touch with Alberto.)

While the witch hunts continue, let's remember a few things, Armstrong stated on Oprah that the biopassport program can't be fooled, that it is a real smart program, while some are distracted over here, it is more likely someone from another shoe company will get popped.

Look at what happened last year.

This complaint reminds me of a visit to DC a few years ago, there was a man outside one of the Federal Courts with all these foam core boards with large letters protesting that his patent was ripped off. Had his car all painted in his complaint and everything.

Going on 7 years I've been watching LRC tilt at this windmill.

10/10 for effort. That's a long document.

Erik, nothing in the lawsuit was lifted from Letsrun. He knew as much as i knew back in the early 90's.

Nike needs to be hit with a RICO racketeering conviction. Put Knight, sleazy, radcliffe, mo, rupp in prison. Seize all nike assets, all assets of sleazy and knight. Seize all assets of rupp, radcliffe and mo. No different from any other scumbag mobster perps or ghetto crack kingpins.

Malmo wrote:

Erik, nothing in the lawsuit was lifted from Letsrun. He knew as much as i knew back in the early 90's.

Perhaps all the pre-2005 stuff is old-hat, but each bullet point in the post-2005 stuff reads like a legalese-styled post from an LRC thread. For example:

"Further, many individuals

who are knowledgeable of track & field are amazed that an individual with so many

health problems...can be the fastest American runner from 1500 meters to 10,000 meters,

and what a coincidence that Nike, Inc.’s previously sponsored phenomenon at 5,000

meters and 10,000 meters, Mr. Robert Kennedy, also suffered from the same condition

and was serviced by the very same doctor. "

A Duck wrote:

Surprise! wrote:

It's regarding a patent for a shoe design. All that other shit will be disregarded.

While the witch hunts continue, let's remember a few things, Armstrong stated on Oprah that the biopassport program can't be fooled, that it is a real smart program,

he may have said that to oprah but he prob didn't mean it

as it's not true

Sure. I agree, the statements from Lyden may not be worth much and could easily be dismissed as rumors...

But sometimes that's how it all starts. Remember Floyd Landis? Boy, was he delusional! Spreading all those rumors about our American hero, Lance. Whether these are false statements or not, I like to see someone stirring the pot. Let them sort it out.

canspo wrote:

Not something I'm familiar with but a few points from scanning this.

1. This guy is representing himself without legal counsel. This raises some questions for me.

2. The complaint states he approached Nike in 1989 with shoe design ideas and his employment relationship with Nike ended in 1998 since which time he has been self-employed. This makes me question a bit about his specific knowledge of NOP drug programs in 2005 and beyond.

3. This is mainly a patent lawsuit regarding shoe design. Most, but I admit not all, of the drug stuff could have been pulled from various Malmo threads, other LetsRun threads, and newspaper articles. The more specific info in his complaint is from the late 80s. The other info (particularly the NOP claims) seems to be second, third, etc hand info or things I could have put together culling info from the internet.

I'm clearly not going to read the whole thing; so he had some kind of access, but did he have approval to present ideas, and if so he would have been required to sign some sort of waiver. They likely had some standard agreement that any ideas you came up with while employed by them were the property of the company.

Most people don't know that the same applies at Universities, if you create a patentable anything while studying or working at X University, the university owns the patent unless they decline to own it.

The beginning of Google was involved in something like this; and I stared a company once where we had to deal with this issue and make sure the PhD. we hired with some founding technology pieces was clear of their obligation to their university.

I'll read the highlights from others...I just got finished studying a 130 page judges ruling....enough density for one 24 hr period.

Kudos to the OP though for digging that out on the interwebs.

erik wrote:

Malmo wrote:

Erik, nothing in the lawsuit was lifted from Letsrun. He knew as much as i knew back in the early 90's.

Perhaps all the pre-2005 stuff is old-hat, but each bullet point in the post-2005 stuff reads like a legalese-styled post from an LRC thread. For example:

"Further, many individuals

who are knowledgeable of track & field are amazed that an individual with so many o

health problems...can be the fastest American runner from 1500 meters to 10,000 meters,

and what a coincidence that Nike, Inc.’s previously sponsored phenomenon at 5,000

meters and 10,000 meters, Mr. Robert Kennedy, also suffered from the same condition

and was serviced by the very same doctor. "

Eric, the running world existed long before Letsrun. On a proper scale, LRC is still in diapers.