Stay away from the infantry - dumb guys get killed at a much higher rate.
Stay away from the infantry - dumb guys get killed at a much higher rate.
for realz? wrote:
Ok, it is a LOT harder to get into med school and finish residency than to get a PhD in psychology. Let's be real, son, there is a BIG difference between the two. It takes a LOT more hard work and a fair amount more intelligence to become a psychiatrist than a psychologist. Even taking and getting a 30+ on the MCAT is probably much harder than anything a psychologist goes through.
Then add all the premed courses, anatomy, pathophysiology, genetics, and all the med classes and it isn't even close. Then add 60-80 hour weeks (yes, every week son) during residency for 4 years in psychiatry. Psych residencies aren't as tough as surgery, where they have to do 80+ hours a week. Although some psychiatrists subspecialize so you would need another year in some cases.
Psychiatry is a f*cking joke. I don't even consider psychiatrists doctors.
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bartending
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there are lots!
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they are by definition since they have the degree. Psychiatry is a specialization within the field of medicine. You can of course consider that particular branch bullcrap.
yyy wrote:
they are by definition since they have the degree. Psychiatry is a specialization within the field of medicine. You can of course consider that particular branch bullcrap.
A degree doesn't make a doctor. Psychiatry is a pseudoscience, a political construct, and its practitioners do not deserve the title of doctor any more than chiropractors.
radiology resident wrote:
A degree doesn't make a doctor.
Okay, what does?
The world needs ditch diggers.
landscaping, golf course or state park grounds crew, etc.
This is all relative, but accounting could definitely be one. Obviously you need some level of intelligence, but you don't have to be "smart" even to become a CPA.
Investment banking is the same - a lot of those guys are not ridiculously smart but don't mind putting in 12-14 hour days week after week.
There are some dumb lawyers as well, but that's not a route I'd recommend.
once a lawyer wrote:
This is all relative, but accounting could definitely be one. Obviously you need some level of intelligence, but you don't have to be "smart" even to become a CPA.
Investment banking is the same - a lot of those guys are not ridiculously smart but don't mind putting in 12-14 hour days week after week.
There are some dumb lawyers as well, but that's not a route I'd recommend.
Each CPA exam has a pass rate of around 50% I think it takes a fair amount of brains to get through.
I think, as well, given the dependence of modern investment banking on highly technical mathematical models, you don't know what you're talking about.
The thing is they are mutually exclusive at least in my opinion. If I am really smart than I figure out how to get the job done and make a pile of money without working hard.
So if I am working hard it is because I am not smart enough to figure out how to make it easy. Now there are people who say you MUST work hard but they might not be smart.
I have heard that FedEx and UPS drivers own their routes. That seems like a good niche for a person of average intellect to work hard and make a decent living.
It also seems like a good job for someone who likes to work hard and not deal much with BS or other people, be outside, get exercise.
Sales or something like a UPS driver where you can work your way up through hard work.
A psychiatrist doesn't require intelligence?? Yeah, because anybody with a high school diploma could just step right up & pursue that degree without problems.
But what does it matter since it's all pseudo science despite brain changes being found in the brain with clients with mental illnesses like schizophrenia. You know decreased gray matter & hippocampus, and larger ventricles just occurs naturally in some people.
Some of you are so freaking stupid.
Parochialism wrote:
once a lawyer wrote:This is all relative, but accounting could definitely be one. Obviously you need some level of intelligence, but you don't have to be "smart" even to become a CPA.
Investment banking is the same - a lot of those guys are not ridiculously smart but don't mind putting in 12-14 hour days week after week.
There are some dumb lawyers as well, but that's not a route I'd recommend.
Each CPA exam has a pass rate of around 50% I think it takes a fair amount of brains to get through.
I think, as well, given the dependence of modern investment banking on highly technical mathematical models, you don't know what you're talking about.
I've worked in an investment bank, so I do know what I'm talking about. Most investment bankers don't have the need to understand the complexities of sophisticated mathematical models. Most just do some DCF analysis and use the complex models as a "black box". For example, an options trader (I don't really consider this IB, but whatever) just needs to know how to trade volatility, gamma, and how to hedge his positions, not understand the stochastic calculus/PDEs at the core of deriving the market-neutral implied volatility and other Greeks. That's the job for the quants, not IB guys.
I've also passed all the CFA exams, which as pretty much any CPA who has attempted them will tell concede, are significantly harder than the CFA exams. And even those don't require a super high level of smarts. You want a challenging certification, do the actuarial ones.
*than the CPA exams.
If you think school attendance = intelligence, you probably overestimate your own.
The % who pass the CPA exam the first time is about 20%