McChesney at only #6? Man, I dunno...
McChesney at only #6? Man, I dunno...
Chris Derrick?
Craig Virgin?
Lukas?
Maybe Evan Jager
Second Place wrote:
Oops... Meyer sub 2:09.
Nope wrong again. 209 flat not sub 209
Kentucky
TYSON GAY, WHADDUP
Florida
Keith Brantley?
Admin wrote:
Chris Derrick?
Craig Virgin?
Lukas?
Maybe Evan Jager
Don't forget Rick Wohlhuter.
The "also-rans" from Illinois aren't too shabby either.
Ken Popejoy
Jorge Torres
Ed Torres
Tim Broe
Don Sage
If you're just talking HS, then add Matt Withrow to the list.
Don't forget Bruce Bickford from Maine.
From Rhode Island we have Tarazan Brown:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellison_Brown
Les Pawson:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Les_Pawson
Bobby Doyle:
Washington
Those who know their Heritage would certainly give a nod to Dorris Brown.
George Atlas wrote:
Ohio
Bob Schul
Dave Wottle
Bob Kennedy
Madeline Manning
Mark Croghan
Have to admit I didn't know Wottle or Croghan was from Ohio and am embarrassed to say that I'd never heard of Madeline Manning - big shame on me now that I've googled her. One more name to add to that list - John Zishka. He was the big dog in Ohio when I was a kid and when Kennedy came along a few years later, the basic take while he was in HS seemed to be, yeah, he's good, but he's no Zishka. Funny how things work out sometimes.
p.s. iirc, Kennedy's HS coach made a point of keeping him on very low mileage - like 30M / week - but this was back in the early 80s and I've never been able to find anything to confirm that recollection. Then Kennedy won NCAA XC as a freshman which is, of course, 10k. Seems hard to believe that anyone, no matter how talented, could go from such a low mileage program to winning a strength-oriented event in such a short period of time. Anyone know the story there?
Is this a joke? Jmac isn't even the best from his city. Matt Davis? Are you pulling names from a hat?
dkny64 wrote:
from Ohio ....One more name to add to that list - John Zishka. He was the big dog in Ohio when I was a kid and when Kennedy came along a few years later, the basic take while he was in HS seemed to be, yeah, he's good, but he's no Zishka. Funny how things work out sometimes.
John Zishka had the talent and mental toughness to match Kennedy if not for the injury bug. There was a generation of runners the U.S. lost to injury from the late-80s to mid-90s, a period that is considered the low point of U.S running. I can think of a great number of runners from Oregon and Wisconsin that would have been world class except for injuries.
Indiana
Spivey
Chapa
dkny64 wrote:
[quote]George Atlas wrote:
Ohio
Bob Schul
Dave Wottle
Bob Kennedy
Madeline Manning
Mark Croghan
Have to admit I didn't know Wottle or Croghan was from Ohio and am embarrassed to say that I'd never heard of Madeline Manning - big shame on me now that I've googled her. One more name to add to that list - John Zishka. He was the big dog in Ohio when I was a kid and when Kennedy came along a few years later, the basic take while he was in HS seemed to be, yeah, he's good, but he's no Zishka. Funny how things work out sometimes.
p.s. iirc, Kennedy's HS coach made a point of keeping him on very low mileage - like 30M / week - but this was back in the early 80s and I've never been able to find anything to confirm that recollection. Then Kennedy won NCAA XC as a freshman which is, of course, 10k. Seems hard to believe that anyone, no matter how talented, could go from such a low mileage program to winning a strength-oriented event in such a short period of time. Anyone know the story there?[/
He wasn't the absolute greatest talent but one of them. Seriously he barely trained in high school and was sort of soft looking and was still third his junior year and first at Footlocker Cross running 30 miles a week.
The fact that he could move up to 10k so fast was amazing.
I don't think he ever got over 65 miles a week in training until he was a senior at IU.
Bob Kennedy was tough. The year he won as a freshman he got dropped and came back to win in a kick finish. Any other freshman would have been thrilled to be top 5 at NCAA's when they got gapped late.
The race that always stood out to me explaining why Kennedy was great was the 1991 NCAA Indoor mile. He was not a miler. Took over the last 400 meters and held off 2 World class Kenyans that were right on him and got the win. I knew then the difference that separated the really good and the special.
Wisconsin:
Chris Solinsky
Tim Hacker
Gabe Jennings
Mark Winzenreid
Jenny Crain
Second Place wrote:
Regarding Michigan... a most Honerable Mention should go to Greg Meyer. Not only was he the last American male to win the Boston Marathon, he may also have been our first sub 4:00 sub 2:08 guy..
Honorable mention could also go to Diemer, last American to medal in the steeple.
Tennessee
Wilma Rudolph
Won one Olympic bronze and three golds.
Also had 21 siblings.
MA=Brad Schlapak
Shannon Butler for Montana. The best by far.
Mid soul wrote:
Indiana
Spivey
Chapa
+ Amy Yoder Begely
Maybe consider some of the current college guys like Bayer and Zenesallasie and Mudd