agip wrote:
I'm thinking his first marathon will be at the trials, and if he makes the team, Rio will be his first serious attempt.
Making the team will take a "serious attempt."
agip wrote:
It's looking now like a 2:11 at the trials would make a team, so that might not be much of a race for Rupp.
"It's looking now like..."??? We have 2.5 years yet. It is not looking like a 2:11 will make the team. You don't even know what course it will be on for f***s sake.
Hardloper wrote:
agip wrote:I'm thinking his first marathon will be at the trials, and if he makes the team, Rio will be his first serious attempt.
Making the team will take a "serious attempt."
agip wrote:
It's looking now like a 2:11 at the trials would make a team, so that might not be much of a race for Rupp.
"It's looking now like..."??? We have 2.5 years yet. It is not looking like a 2:11 will make the team. You don't even know what course it will be on for f***s sake.
jfc, just making conversation. calm down.
But my thinking is that Ritz is, well, a 2:08-2:10 guy
Hall is probably around that post injury
third...Meb again? I think 2:11 would be a fine day for Meb in 2016
Who else is there? Arciniega? he would have to improve. Maybe I'm forgetting someone - but it would be rare to have a guy make a team who 2.5 yrs away from teh trials you ne'er heard of.
who are you thinking will run 2:10 in 2016? Derrick? Maybe. 2:10 is a seriously fast marathon time- few americans have done that.
Rupp ran WORLD LEADING times at 1500m, 1 mile, & 3000m indoors LESS THAN A YEAR AGO. He just finished 4th in the world championship 10k, his best finish ever at worlds and the highest ever placing by an american there at that distance.
He ran the 2nd fastest 5k of his career outdoors. He likely had an undisclosed injury. You don't go from running the way he did indoors to the way he looked outdoors, read: flat; without some kind of injury.
And yet people are saying he is over the hill and past his prime. Hilarious.
Alberto has said he will continue to remain on the track through 2016, and after Rio he will move up (possibly after the world championships in 2017).
Geb ran 2:03:59 in his mid 30s. His actual age at the time was probably 40 or so. Galen is fine.
someone had to do it wrote:
Rupp ran WORLD LEADING times at 1500m, 1 mile, & 3000m indoors LESS THAN A YEAR AGO. He just finished 4th in the world championship 10k, his best finish ever at worlds and the highest ever placing by an american there at that distance.
He ran the 2nd fastest 5k of his career outdoors. He likely had an undisclosed injury. You don't go from running the way he did indoors to the way he looked outdoors, read: flat; without some kind of injury.
And yet people are saying he is over the hill and past his prime. Hilarious.
Alberto has said he will continue to remain on the track through 2016, and after Rio he will move up (possibly after the world championships in 2017).
Geb ran 2:03:59 in his mid 30s. His actual age at the time was probably 40 or so. Galen is fine.
I don't think he is past his prime, but I don't think he had an injury either. I think that he and Farah sacrificed endurance for speed this year.
Obvious Answer wrote:
And yes, this includes your beloved Haile Gebrselassie.
Geb actually debuted at 15. But seriously, he shouldn't have run London in 2002 - HUGE mistake. He'd have another 10000 Olympic Gold and probably still have the world record.
Dennnis Kimetto was 1 year younger than Rupp (actually probably a few years older, right!) when he STARTED running. You gotta factor in that that's 25 in Kenyan years.
You don't have to do everything the same as the average.
someone had to do it wrote: Geb ran 2:03:59 in his mid 30s. His actual age at the time was probably 40 or so. Galen is fine.
You think Rupp = Geb? You are delusional. There is no comparison. Geb >>>>>>> Rupp...
qualified +1
Rupp is a 5k/10k runner. Rupp should run 1-2 marathons just to test the distance and get a mark, but at best he will be 2:08 which doesn't win much today.
someone had to tell you wrote:
You think Rupp = Geb? You are delusional. There is no comparison. Geb >>>>>>> Rupp...
Yes
Because that is exactly what I said
nope...sireee...bob...
you "exactly" stated...
Galen was fine...
...fine, what?...fine to wait...like Geb did?....
agip wrote:
It's looking now like a 2:11 at the trials would make a team, so that might not be much of a race for Rupp.
"It's looking now like..."??? We have 2.5 years yet. It is not looking like a 2:11 will make the team. You don't even know what course it will be on for f***s sake.[/quote]
jfc, just making conversation. calm down.
But my thinking is that Ritz is, well, a 2:08-2:10 guy
Hall is probably around that post injury
third...Meb again? I think 2:11 would be a fine day for Meb in 2016
Who else is there? Arciniega? he would have to improve. Maybe I'm forgetting someone - but it would be rare to have a guy make a team who 2.5 yrs away from teh trials you ne'er heard of.
who are you thinking will run 2:10 in 2016? Derrick? Maybe. 2:10 is a seriously fast marathon time- few americans have done that.[/quote]
Ritz by the numbers is a 2:08 - 2:10 guy. Running in a race with no rabitt and now speed freaks out ahead of him goes 2:09:3x at best.
Hall. Well I see a 2:09:45 type time at NYC. I think he is close to done. Physically he can still run fast, but I don't think he wants it. It is almost like he is quite ok settling for being the best US guy and even that is questionable. I can see a team in 2016 without Hall.
Meb has desire, but can he really hold out for 2016?
Teg. Getting up there in years, but with the debut you would think that would be his focus if he plans on another Olympic team.
The rest. Hopefully some of the younger guys start going to the marathon early. Think it will be a pretty open with no real shoo ins.
He should never move up. First off, Baby Rupp hasn't gut the guts to complete several serious bouts of marathon training. Second, the Africans are so far ahead in the marathon that it doesn't make sense for mostly any Western guy to run it.
I think people are forgetting Ryan Vail. He'll be in contention at the 2016 trials.
Lawyers, Guns and Money wrote:
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You don't have to do everything the same as the average.
I can agree with this.
There is no way Rupp will run Boston. Ever.
There are hills on that course, so it is automatically not Rupp-cer...
I don't even have to say it.
Mark Conover wrote:
Ritz by the numbers is a 2:08 - 2:10 guy. Running in a race with no rabitt and now speed freaks out ahead of him goes 2:09:3x at best.
Hall. Well I see a 2:09:45 type time at NYC. I think he is close to done. Physically he can still run fast, but I don't think he wants it. It is almost like he is quite ok settling for being the best US guy and even that is questionable. I can see a team in 2016 without Hall.
Meb has desire, but can he really hold out for 2016?
Teg. Getting up there in years, but with the debut you would think that would be his focus if he plans on another Olympic team.
The rest. Hopefully some of the younger guys start going to the marathon early. Think it will be a pretty open with no real shoo ins.
Agreed.
The three folks who will represent the USA in the 2016 Olympic marathon will be:
Ryan Vail
Sam Chelanga
Galen Rupp
(No Hall, Ritz, Meb, Teg... Their time will be up by then, if it is not already)
Rupp should run a marathon after the 2016 Olympics if he feels motivated to do so.
This year, he had a great indoor season and mediocre outdoor season (4th at worlds is still pretty darn good, but he really did not have the last 400.)
Rupp and Alberto need to switch this around; sure have some fun running indoors, but don't get to that razor sharp speed fitness. This is what dragged Galen down outdoors. Unsustainable.
I think Rupp has PRs in him over 5 and 10 for 2014 is he gets the peak put together properly for summer.
As for Mo, I'd much rather see him prepare to challenge Kiprop over 1500 in Monaco and at the Commonwealth next summer, than run the London marathon! C'mon Mo, do something cool and go with your strong suite! I think it's break down like this, ideally, if all were healthy:
Kiprop wins at Monaco in 3:26 with Mo at 3:27.
Commonwealth, if it's relatively fast, 3:31 or better, Mo surprised Kiprop at the tape for gold. If it's slow, Asbel smokes the stretch and Mo can't make a dent in his lead.
Yeah, I know I'm dreaming, but that is what makes it fun to be a fan of the sport.
OK, I'll proof before posting next time. Bad grammer & spelling, ouch.
yyy wrote:
first be able to consistently run sub13/27 next year (no WC/OG). Then try a fast course in the fall (Berlin/Chicago/Amsterdam/Frankfurt) and take it from there.
I agree with this. Go for some fast track times outdoors, then run a fall marathon next year. I don't see Rupp factoring in Rio on the track. He might as well try to make the marathon team in 2016, and, if he misses, he can try the 10,000. I don't think he should wait until he's 30 to start marathoning. Even Salazar once said that is too late.
someone had to tell you wrote:
nope...sireee...bob...
you "exactly" stated...
Galen was fine...
...fine, what?...fine to wait...like Geb did?....
Moron
Galen is fine =/= Galen is Geb
Idiot
What part of this does your tiny pea brain not comprehend
imbecile
learn
Well said , Rupp is a little long in the tooth as they say , he will run a respected time but not world class standard as we see in todays winning times.