How about posting those arrests?
How many were for minor things like underage drinking or driving without a license?
I am not defending him per se, but I am a fan of a big time school that has had its share of legal run ins and most of them are minor things that do not involve endangering others.
hypocrites wrote:
The guy epitomizes fraud and hypocrisy in self-interested college football coaches.
Stress-related health scare after losing SEC championship in 2010, intimates he is resigning saying "recent developments have forced me to re-evaluate my priorities of faith and family."
Then un-resigns within a few days, taking an indefinite leave of absence, but continues coaching team to Sugar bowl, and then re-assumes full-time duties to get his 100th victory, but resigns again after a poor 2011 season.
Then, you know, because he is so dedicated to his family and all, immediately takes a job at ESPN doing football commentating.
Then within a few months, takes the job at Ohio State, presumably because he wants to avoid stress-related health concerns that could never happen at such a clean program, and spend that precious time with his family, etc.
Then while at Ohio State, he he rats out a Florida coach for recruiting violations.
By the way, 31 of his players were arrested during his nearly six years as the Gators' coach.
You forgot to add that ESPN was doing everything they could to get Tressel fired including suing the university for all kinds of confidential info.
As for Tressel, once the lawyer told him what was going on and that there was a federal drug investigation going on, he was screwed regardless of what he did. Do you think the FEDERAL GOV'T would have been happy if Tressel blew their investigation by suspending those players for apparently no reason? That investigation went on for at least 8 months when they notified OSU about the memorabilia.
Cicero, the lawyer was suspended from practicing law for a year by the Ohio Supreme Court for violating attorney-client privilege.
Edward Rife, the tattoo parlor owner was sentenced to 3 years following his conviction on drug trafficking and money laundering charges.
Been There, Done That wrote:
Hope to be Happy wrote:Very nicely said. He reminds me of Bob Huggins. During his tenure at Cincinati - not one player was graduated - not one!
They didn't graduate because they all went pro....idiot. If you had a pro contract waiting would you stay in school to graduate for a PE degree.
Well they should have stayed in school to graduate with ANY type of degree. Only 3 Cincinnati players are still playing and they are scrubs. They should have studied hard in school so they are not working at Denny's now.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/friv/colleges.cgi?college=cincyMr. Integrity wrote:
Good luck. And enjoy that Ohio winter. (Personally I'd rather be middle class in California, than rich in Ohio.)
All the best.
As Kenny Powers would say "F*ck the west coast up the butthole".
THE OSU Alumnus wrote:
It's gonna be a rough few years for all of you LRC Buckeye haters. Urban is building a dynasty!!
Just like he did in Florida, huh? Dynasties are not built on shady dealings with shady people and chaotic uncontrolled team environments. I have no doubt he'll build some fantastic teams at OSU. I also have no doubt it will come crashing down as rapidly as it did at UF. As much as Meyer has preached loyalty and good character into the national spotlight over the years, starting back at Utah, he has not lived it as a coach. There is nothing to suggest he will start living it now at OSU.
The Stache wrote:
THE OSU Alumnus wrote:It's gonna be a rough few years for all of you LRC Buckeye haters. Urban is building a dynasty!!
Just like he did in Florida, huh? Dynasties are not built on shady dealings with shady people and chaotic uncontrolled team environments. I have no doubt he'll build some fantastic teams at OSU. I also have no doubt it will come crashing down as rapidly as it did at UF. As much as Meyer has preached loyalty and good character into the national spotlight over the years, starting back at Utah, he has not lived it as a coach. There is nothing to suggest he will start living it now at OSU.
16-0 so far at THE Ohio State University!! Keep hatin'
THE OSU Alumnus wrote:
The Stache wrote:Just like he did in Florida, huh? Dynasties are not built on shady dealings with shady people and chaotic uncontrolled team environments. I have no doubt he'll build some fantastic teams at OSU. I also have no doubt it will come crashing down as rapidly as it did at UF. As much as Meyer has preached loyalty and good character into the national spotlight over the years, starting back at Utah, he has not lived it as a coach. There is nothing to suggest he will start living it now at OSU.
16-0 so far at THE Ohio State University!! Keep hatin'
Should an athletic program only be judged by its record? Isn't is more important for an athletic program to instill good principles in its young men? That they should grow up to be kind and gentle human beings?
Soupy Saless wrote:
Should an athletic program only be judged by its record? Isn't is more important for an athletic program to instill good principles in its young men? That they should grow up to be kind and gentle human beings?
Depends what your particular schools goal is. When you are at a school like Ohio State that makes a ridiculous amount of money on their program from people who want them to win at all costs, yes the program should only be judged by its record. When you are at BYU the goal may be a bit different.
Urban Meyer's Gonna Urban Meyer
Published on: July 22, 2013 | Written by: Clay Travis
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Everyone not wearing scarlet and gray knows that Urban Meyer is the fakest major college coach in America. He wags his finger about player discipline, morality and the top 1% of 1% -- meanwhile his players are out committing felonies with reckless abandon. Felony battery and an investigation for a double shooting? Meyer referred to those as "very minor issues," when it came to Aaron Hernandez's tenure in Florida. Now Meyer's felonious culture has reared its ugly head at Ohio State.
It didn't take long.
The latest Urban Meyer player to seriously run afoul of the law? Starting running back Carlos Hyde, who was dismissed after being accused of punching a woman at a club in a police report. Hyde, who had hoped to become the first Urban Meyer running back to rush for 1,000 yards, isn't the only Buckeye in trouble. Starting cornerback Bradley Roby has been charged with battery on the same weekend.
Pop quiz: You know what Urban Meyer usually calls his arrested players?
Team captain.
Raise your hand if you could have ever foreseen Urban Meyer players having major off the field incidents. (Every college footbal fan not rooting for Ohio State raises his or her hand).
Some people ask, why are you so hard on Urban Meyer? The answer's simple, because Urban Meyer is completely and totally full of crap. He wins football games by any means necessary. That's fine, more power to him. If he just admitted, "You know, I care about winning football games more than I care about anything in my life," I'd just nod and move along. Then all the player arrests, going on ESPN and claiming the reason he left Florida was because college football had become too dirty for him, lying to his players about his health issues, asserting that his family comes first when they find out that he's returning to coaching on ESPN, all of it would make a lot more sense.
We'd all know that deep down Urban Meyer cared so much about winning that nothing else mattered to him.
But Urban's not content with the truth being out there.
He has to be the most hypocritical coach in major college football. He has to claim he's winning the "right way." Ask other college coaches about Urban Meyer and they just roll their eyes at what a fake the guy is. No matter what you do everyone has worked in a profession with a hypocrite, a person who tries to control his image to such an extent that he himself actually starts to believe his own lies.
That's Urban Meyer.
He's so good of an enabler that he even enables himself to believe his own lies.
Read the article about Hyde being dismissed again. The Columbus-Dispatch -- whose writers have thus far been carrying the water for Urban Meyer -- even includes this handy line: "Meyer has a strict policy regarding violence against women."
Gee, thanks, Urban.
Guess this explains how Aaron Hernandez kept playing at Florida. He didn't shoot a woman. Just two men. Boys will be boys. Oh, and Chris Rainey too. But who among us hasn't texted, "Time to die, bitch," to our college girlfriends?
Without Urban's "strict policy regarding violence against women" what would all of our laws that govern the same thing be worth?
Nothing.
I'm not even kidding about that.
Because Urban Meyer makes his own rules, breaks them, and then calls out media and fans for daring to notice his blatant hypocrisy. Often this works with local media, who are so afraid of being shut out on big stories that they walk around all moony-eyed as Urban talks. But slowly that infatuation wears off for both media and fans. "Wait a minute," they start to realize, "Urban Meyer just told me that one felony plus one felony equaled zero felonies. That can't be right."
It is when Urban Meyer does the math.
That's because Urban Meyer puts winning above everything. Including, the law. And if you put winning above all else eventually your program falls apart.
That's what happened at Florida.
Meyer won battle after battle with felons. Using Tim Tebow as a media distraction, he ran up a 26-2 record in the chosen one's final 28 games. Even as the program fell apart Tebow kept the Gators from sinking into football oblivion. But then what happened once Tebow was gone? Urban lost his team, and he'd lost the war. His program's foundation was built on quicksand, it sank into the Swamp.
Meyer looked the other way until his locker room was unrecoverable. The Gators fell completely and totally apart. Ask Will Muschamp about the culture he inherited at Florida. He'll dodge the question. What he'd like to tell you is this, "Urban Meyer completely and totally broke the Florida Gator program."
Then Meyer skipped away at the last possible moment, just as the program went underwater -- remember he even tried to skip away before the final 8-5 season. Urban left Muschamp to try and drag his players out of the mess he'd left behind.
There's a reason Urban Meyer doesn't stay anywhere very long.
It's because his will to win burns so intensely it consumes everything around him, turns foundations to ash, leaves an empty victory behind. A body without a backbone can't stand. Neither can a program without one. Urban Meyer will win games early, but his program will die in the process.
Then what happens?
That nasty indigestion kicks up again.
Better keep ESPN on speed dial, Urban.
Before all is said and done at Ohio State, they're going to have to bail you out again.
Dennis Reynolds wrote:
Depends what your particular schools goal is. When you are at a school like Ohio State that makes a ridiculous amount of money on their program from people who want them to win at all costs, yes the program should only be judged by its record. When you are at BYU the goal may be a bit different.
Nah, the goals the same there too.
Saban>Meyer
And Urb knows it. Probably part of reason he quit at UF.
Goes to weaker conference, and doesn't have to recruit against
Saban, Miles, Spurrier...
The guy is bogus.
THE OSU Alumnus wrote:
The Stache wrote:Just like he did in Florida, huh? Dynasties are not built on shady dealings with shady people and chaotic uncontrolled team environments. I have no doubt he'll build some fantastic teams at OSU. I also have no doubt it will come crashing down as rapidly as it did at UF. As much as Meyer has preached loyalty and good character into the national spotlight over the years, starting back at Utah, he has not lived it as a coach. There is nothing to suggest he will start living it now at OSU.
16-0 so far at THE Ohio State University!! Keep hatin'
16-0? Who have they beaten that's any good?
One decent win. Wisconsin on road last year.
Wisconsin lost 4 games last year.
When OSU plays in their BCS Bowl game (if they do go undefeated, they won't get to the title game, mark my words)vs an SEC opponent, let's see how badly the fraud Suckeyes will get spanked...
Reporter out to out Urban wrote:
I have a friend who is a reporter who is researching the story of the shooting Aaron Hernandez committed allegedly while at Fla with 3 other players that Saint Urban had covered up. When this story breaks Urban is going to be put in prison or at least negotiate some sort of deal as acting to cover up a crime.
How can Urban Meyer cover up crimes that were reported to Gainesville, FL PD??????????
Carlos Hyde was accused of hitting a woman? I bet that b*tch wasn't paying attention and backed into him while she waved at her friends. I don't let them get away with that. My pimp hand is strong
codger wrote:
Reporter out to out Urban wrote:I have a friend who is a reporter who is researching the story of the shooting Aaron Hernandez committed allegedly while at Fla with 3 other players that Saint Urban had covered up. When this story breaks Urban is going to be put in prison or at least negotiate some sort of deal as acting to cover up a crime.
How can Urban Meyer cover up crimes that were reported to Gainesville, FL PD??????????
You've never been to Gainesville, have you? I love the city, but I could EASILY see this happening. That city bleeds orange and blue. I would bet good money that part of the "investigation" (probably the first part actually) was taking a ride over to Meyer's office to chat with him...rather than, you know, talk to witnesses or anything.
Good article about Aaron Hernandez & how Urban Meyer turned a blind eye to all the crap the Gator football team did. To his credit, he assigned Tim Tebow to mentor Hernandez; obviously it didn't work...
Top D1 college football players are largely black and/or from underprivileged backgrounds, throw them on a college campus, treat them like kings.... guess what will happen?
Not that anyone would come here, but CEO's do get on message boards and talk junk. For instance, there was the CEO of Whole Foods.
The Stache wrote:
codger wrote:How can Urban Meyer cover up crimes that were reported to Gainesville, FL PD??????????
You've never been to Gainesville, have you? I love the city, but I could EASILY see this happening. That city bleeds orange and blue. I would bet good money that part of the "investigation" (probably the first part actually) was taking a ride over to Meyer's office to chat with him...rather than, you know, talk to witnesses or anything.
Ummm, I was referencing the Gainesville PD; not the U. Florida PD.