Savinova has no excuse this time as she had her eye on her, and only her the entire race: she wasn't racing anyone else. Also, nice to finally see the event not being overshadowed by Montano's failings and talk of how she'd have won if she'd run differently. If you ask me, her tactics in Moscow were the only chance for a woman of her musculature.
Brenda said that vigil said she could run 155/355. And he was talking about a couple years down the road.
El Keniano wrote:
Savinova has no excuse this time as she had her eye on her, and only her the entire race: she wasn't racing anyone else. Also, nice to finally see the event not being overshadowed by Montano's failings and talk of how she'd have won if she'd run differently. If you ask me, her tactics in Moscow were the only chance for a woman of her musculature.
Yup.
Someone, ( I think Savinova but I could be wrong) cut Sum very badly and made her lose concentration and momentum with about 250 meters to go.
This is perhaps what made that race that interesting. May be it was necessary.
As we speak...read....write, Jepkoech is way better than anyone else and that includes Savinova. Perhaps the only person who could beat her is Niyonsaba.
?..and yes, Montaño ran in a straight line and ended up fourth.
If sum could just work on her speed, her last hundred, she'd be very hard to beat.
Savinova now knows that she has a Kenyan to deal with.
Sum is the woMAN!
Doing the same thing twice is no fluke mate. Sum is the next big thing in 800m. There was jepkosgei, then came jelimo and now sum. And shes here to stay
Kalenjin wrote:
Doing the same thing twice is no fluke mate. Sum is the next big thing in 800m. There was jepkosgei, then came jelimo and now sum. And shes here to stay
Amen to that. And Native Son is right about her needing to work on her speed. She has such a graceful Rudisha-like gait, seems to have a sense for good tactics, and has the endurance; if she did some speed work she could be running low 156s/high 155s by next year.
Anyway, awesome end to end the season for my favourite breakout athlete of the year.
Kalenjin wrote:
Doing the same thing twice is no fluke mate. Sum is the next big thing in 800m. There was jepkosgei, then came jelimo and now sum. And shes here to stay
We'll see.
I guess it depends on what the Italian doctors want really, if they feel they can make money elsewhere they'll stop the 'support' it seems.
If I were an Italian doctor, I would give it up. LOL
The "prize money" are so ridiculous that it is not worthy of the effort.
BTW, what about the "abnormal hormonal levels" in the poor genetic marvel Francine Niyonsaba? Is it based on something verifable?
Sport physiologist wrote:
BTW, what about the "abnormal hormonal levels" in the poor genetic marvel Francine Niyonsaba? Is it based on something verifable?
Where did this start? I thought she was injured?
Talks cheap.
we don't need nobody's support. Train hard, win easy. You and savinova on the other hand need support in getting used to the fact that there is a new sherrif in town.trollism wrote:
Kalenjin wrote:Doing the same thing twice is no fluke mate. Sum is the next big thing in 800m. There was jepkosgei, then came jelimo and now sum. And shes here to stay
We'll see.
I guess it depends on what the Italian doctors want really, if they feel they can make money elsewhere they'll stop the 'support' it seems.
trollism wrote:I guess it depends on what the Italian doctors want really
idiot
she has a 1'57pb
do you think it takes italian docs to get you to this "titanic level" ???
NativeSon wrote:
?..and yes, Montaño ran in a straight line and ended up fourth.
leaving me nobody to teach geometry to.
She was cooked as soon as she decided not to follow the pacemaker. But now all those people who wanted her to go out in 27.8 and 58.3 and figured she somehow would get a 1:56 out of it, they have all finally shut up.
Bad Wigins wrote:
all those people who wanted her to go out in 27.8 and 58.3 and figured she somehow would get a 1:56 out of it, they have all finally shut up.
I hope so. But these distance boys don't get that a LONG SPRINTER like Montano will NEVER close under 60, and that the difference between a 1:57 and a 2:00 for her is all in the first lap. Opens in 56, closes in 61. Opens in 60, closes in 61.
^^^ This! And a "long sprinter" is exactly what she is. She and her coach get it. Letsrunners like Cicirunner and his fellow twitteratti don't.
"Dis" and "dissed" are not words, they are Ebonics. Stop trying to sound black and please write intelligently.
Yeah, I would only be suspicious of times under 1:55/1:56. I wonder why the 800m seems to attract a lot of Male/Female hybrids? It seems more-so than other events. I know there have been the odd one in the lesser sprints. I'm thinking Semenya, and rumours about Jelimo? Niyonsaba? etc. Might be getting mixed up with a 1500m runner here too.
wr potential wrote:
Yeah, I would only be suspicious of times under 1:55/1:56. I wonder why the 800m seems to attract a lot of Male/Female hybrids? It seems more-so than other events. I know there have been the odd one in the lesser sprints. I'm thinking Semenya, and rumours about Jelimo? Niyonsaba? etc. Might be getting mixed up with a 1500m runner here too.
You can be virtually sure that everything below 1:56 (and below 3:58 in the 1500 m) is "unnatural". The experience with former socialist runners - and with recent EPO dopers - shows it quite clearly. The poor doping women don't realize that by running these times, they expose the drugs running in their veins to the whole world.
Post scriptum: In contrast with men, women benefit from the increase of strength in distances up to the 800 m. This is evident both from the results of former socialist runners and from the fact that there is a relatively negligible difference in BMI between 100 m female sprinters and 800 m female runners. However, there is a large gap between 800 m/1500 m, because in the 1500 m, aerobic metabolism definitely gets the upper hand.