Plenty of homemade carrot, celery, cabbage juice.
Cleansing diet.
Fresh pure water.
Internal cleanses.
Basically being healthy, building up the immune system, staying away from doctors, drugs, and medical machines.
Plenty of homemade carrot, celery, cabbage juice.
Cleansing diet.
Fresh pure water.
Internal cleanses.
Basically being healthy, building up the immune system, staying away from doctors, drugs, and medical machines.
Lyme disease is named after Lyme, Connecticut
How common is lyme from tick bites? I've had maybe 100 or so ticks over the years here in VA from running on unmaintained trails/fields, but never gotten lyme.
Lyme is a very mysterious disease - not well understood. For most people who get it, a course of antibiotics cures it even after months. For a rare few it goes chronic and nearly wrecks their lives. Why? Some think chronic lyme is actually a combo disease - two bacteria joining together.
great story on the controversy:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/07/01/130701fa_fact_specter
in any case, even if you are bitten by a tick you rarely get it. I've been bit a dozen times and never had the disease.
Lyme disease is terrible.
It took me an entire year after antibiotics to even feel decent on a run, not good or fast but decent. Every single run I did for that year I felt exhausted and terrible.
agip wrote:
Lyme is a very mysterious disease - not well understood. For most people who get it, a course of antibiotics cures it even after months. For a rare few it goes chronic and nearly wrecks their lives.
great story on the controversy:
http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2013/07/01/130701fa_fact_specter
Last Man Standing wrote:
It took me an entire year after antibiotics to even feel decent on a run, not good or fast but decent. Every single run I did for that year I felt exhausted and terrible.
Antibiotics destroy the immune system, and that most definitely wrecks people's lives.
This is a quotation from the link:
there is no evidence that prolonged antibiotic therapy helps patients with Lyme disease
Antibiotics don't help! See??? However they do destroy your immune system's ability to fight off infections.
Tough Luck wrote:
In his running log, Donn Cabral mentions he is "not really over this Lyme yet." He seemed very evasive when talking about his problems last spring. I guess this explains it. I figured he either must have something serious or made a huge training error. After his 3:56 and 44:20 25k the latter seemed unlikely. Tough luck for a rising star.
44:20 is an amazing time for 25k. I must have missed the press release on this new world best
There is no bound to the classlessness of some posters. Mods should deal with "tough luck," "ticked off," and "TUE." This isn't a joke, it's the life a promising kid.
Gags will motivate to get his hunger back. Him and his high school coach were lost last year even before injuries, sickness. He will be solidly America's #2.
I speak from experience when I say that antibiotics DO help with Lyme Disease. I have neurological Lyme (the spirochete has found it's way into my brain) and the only thing that helped was the 4 months of daily infusion treatments.
The traditional medical community denies that chronic Lyme exists. They claim if what you have is not effectively treated by 28 days of doxycycline or amoxicillin, then what you have is something else. There is great controversy centered around insurance companies and their unwillingness to pay for long-term treatment.
A good resource is the movie, "Under Our Skin".
And to correct another poster, Lyme is named for Old Lyme, CT, not Lyme, CT.
I speak from experience when I say that antibiotics DO help with Lyme Disease. I have neurological Lyme (the spirochete has found it's way into my brain) and the only thing that helped was the 4 months of daily infusion treatments.
The traditional medical community denies that chronic Lyme exists. They claim if what you have is not effectively treated by 28 days of doxycycline or amoxicillin, then what you have is something else. There is great controversy centered around insurance companies and their unwillingness to pay for long-term treatment.
A good resource is the movie, "Under Our Skin".
And to correct another poster, Lyme is named for Old Lyme, CT, not Lyme, CT.
Distance runners are particularly susceptible to missing the symptoms of Lyme because the achy, lousy, stiff feeling of Lyme is a lot like the way a runner feels the day (or days) after a hard run.
We learn to live with discomfort but that discomfort is actually a sign you are sick.
There was a long, very informative article in the New Yorker Magazine maybe two months ago about Lyme Disease. I'm sorry I can't seem to find any link, but I'd recommend the article if you can find it. I have also heard a couple radio stories on it recently, as it's becoming more common in metro Washington, DC, where I live. Those of us who spend time outdoors would do well to familiarize ourselves with the tell tale signs: normally a rash around a tic bite that looks like a target. It's treatable, but the longer it goes undiagnosed and untreated, the more serious it can become and the more difficult to treat.
I wish this fine young athlete a full recovery and a return to top form.
Les myles wrote:
I speak from experience when I say that antibiotics DO help with Lyme Disease. I have neurological Lyme (the spirochete has found it's way into my brain) and the only thing that helped was the 4 months of daily infusion treatments.
The traditional medical community denies that chronic Lyme exists. They claim if what you have is not effectively treated by 28 days of doxycycline or amoxicillin, then what you have is something else. There is great controversy centered around insurance companies and their unwillingness to pay for long-term treatment.
A good resource is the movie, "Under Our Skin".
And to correct another poster, Lyme is named for Old Lyme, CT, not Lyme, CT.
Agree here. I fought with doctors for quite awhile about chronic lyme disease. Getting bit by a tick does not guarantee Lyme. it has to be a deer tick, which are really hard to see. I never got the rash and have had it twice. Flu like and achy for extended periods of time. Didn't get tested until I began to lose the ability to use my fingers. Doctors thought it was arthritis Second time resulted in a frozen shoulder. AS the previous poster also said, it is not uncommon for distance runners who are training seriously to ignore the symptoms, because it feels like you've been overtraining.
In addition, I may be wrong on this count, but once the antibodies are in your system and you get it again, the doctors can't tell if you have been reinfected.
Also, different people react in different ways. One local coach developed Bells Palsy 24 hours after being bitten. A young teacher at school was told she had MS and was even tested for ALS before being diagnosed with Lyme. She was on massive doses of antibiotics for months before improvement.
Les myles wrote:
Distance runners are particularly susceptible to missing the symptoms of Lyme because the achy, lousy, stiff feeling of Lyme is a lot like the way a runner feels the day (or days) after a hard run.
We learn to live with discomfort but that discomfort is actually a sign you are sick.
I didn't contract Lyme, but a cousin from a tick. I live in CT in a wooded area. My symptoms were typical of Les Myles. It started with a rash (not the typical bulls-eye rash that we see, which happens about 60% of people that contract Lyme) across my body. My rash looked more like poison ivy, just not as itchy. Then I had extreme fatigue; falling asleep at my desk at work, which I attributed to high number of work hours coupled with increased mileage and around-the-house chores. From there I had a sore throat, then a mild headache both that lasted for a few days. I finally broke into a mild fever. Total time was about two weeks from when I found the tick on my body to getting these crazy symptoms to when I saw the doctor. As I stated before, I didn't get Lyme, but some other tick borne bacterial disease based on what the doctor could tell. He gave me 21 days of antibiotics. Although I feel better, my running has definitely taken a step back. On average I lost about 15 - 20 seconds per mile on my workout days.
There are other tick-related diseases other than Lyme: Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever, ehrlichiosis, anaplasmosis, and babesiosis to name a few. And scientists have been stating the last few years that the number of disease reports have been increasing.
Take this article from 2012, from "Infectious Disease News":
In that article, the doctor being interviewed suggests that deer populations and climate change could be contributing to the rise in deer ticks. Well, I can't do anything or much about climate change, but I might as well apply for my hunting license to help thin out the deer herds (all in the name of the running community!)
JR:
Three quotes from the same story re;the effectiveness of antibiotics on Lyme - I'm not a dr - do they contradict each other?:
Furthermore, there is no evidence that prolonged antibiotic therapy helps patients with Lyme disease, so insurance companies almost never pay for it.
Most people who fit the profile respond well to antibiotics, even months or years after the initial infection.
Public-health officials say that a few weeks of antibiotic treatment will almost always wipe out the infection, and that relapses are rare. In this view, put forth in guidelines issued by the Infectious Diseases Society of America, Lyme is normally easy to treat and easy to cure.
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So it sounds like there is some definition of 'prolonged antibiotic therapy' but for almost everyone antibiotics end lyme. Certainly some bad editing there from teh New Yorker.
Reaswert wrote:
sanchobaile wrote:also joining NJ/NY TC, to be coached by Gags..
Is this true?
Has Gags ever coached a steepler close to that good?
Mike Roche - 1976 Olympic Steepler from Rutgers.
I think Cabral will thrive there.
2 of the top 5 women in steeple at USA Nationals this year,(Higginson, Traynor). Mahoney is just a pup, finished college last December.
Who did Vigil- the distance-marathon guru- ever coach in the 800 before Martinez?
Great coaches understand the sport, and understand how to figure out what they need to know.
True fans wrote:
Gags will motivate to get his hunger back. Him and his high school coach were lost last year even before injuries, sickness. He will be solidly America's #2.
1) He was never injured.
2) As the OP mentioned, but with an obvious typo, he ran very fast in the mile and 15k within a few weeks of each other. That range is almost non existent in US distance runners. How in the world is that "lost?"
3) I talked to his coach in Iowa. He said he couldn't believe Cabral made the final with how sick and weak he had been all spring. He thought his motivation was too strong and wasn't completely confident he was doing a good thing by racing.