msmsm wrote:
Why do you guys keep thinking that he's past his prime? He's been INJURED. That could happen to anyone young or old. There is no evidence that he is past his prime.
Becoming plagued by injuries is something that often happens to athletes past their primes.
Consider This wrote:
msmsm wrote:Why do you guys keep thinking that he's past his prime? He's been INJURED. That could happen to anyone young or old. There is no evidence that he is past his prime.
Becoming plagued by injuries is something that often happens to athletes past their primes.
Add to the fact that he is 31. 21 year old plus an injury is plausible to come back into complete form but a 31 year old with LOTs of mileage on the legs coming back from an injury is not so plausible to come back from.
whatt//// wrote:
Consider This wrote:Becoming plagued by injuries is something that often happens to athletes past their primes.
Add to the fact that he is 31. 21 year old plus an injury is plausible to come back into complete form but a 31 year old with LOTs of mileage on the legs coming back from an injury is not so plausible to come back from.
What is lots of mileage? Doesn't he only do like 85 mpw?
Haile made his marathon debut at age "29" which was really 34 and set his PR at "35" which was really 40. Bekele is not too late to do some serious damage.
msmsm wrote:
What is lots of mileage? Doesn't he only do like 85 mpw?
since the age of 12
whatt//// wrote:
Said88 is just afraid that kennster might be better than geb. Serious this dude has been trying to protect gebs legacy for a long time. A 2:08? Okay but with a year or two year training, he could without a doubt run 2:05 to 2:04. Don't be surprised
Trying to protect? So you want to deny Geb's legacy? 2:04? Let's ait and see. I don't think he will do it in his career.
we want it NOW wrote:
said88 wrote:I really don't see him doing something very special in the Marathon, definitely not this year. Not faster than 2:08, more like 2:09, but I tend even more to a DNF. We will see.
Post the Ryun Dusseldorf video you greedy mother&$#%@
Hi friendly person!
Why don't YOU post the vid? Any reason that you want that someone else is doing things for you instead of doing these things yourself? Very stupid/perverse attitude.
so you say he ran a 28.00 min 10K this year at the age of 45?
And a 26.54 10000m at the age of 40 (in 2008 at Hengelo)?
categorically wrote:Fast forward to 2005 and Sammy Wanjiru is a 19 year old and he runs 26:41 (26:41 at 19!!!!) and he got beat by 20 seconds in that race!! And by a guy who was only 23.
Well Wanjiru wasn't going to settle for second place for his whole life so he jumped to the marathon and became a legend on the roads
that is not the whole story
sammy went thru 6k just behind kennster in 26'16 pace !!!
if he'd not run so damn recklessly for a raw kid & paced it better ( i e much slower to 6k point, he wouda finished much stronger ) he shouda gone ~ 26'30 - 26'35 that day
seeing as he was so young at the time & it was 3y to peking games, & already in likely 26'30 - 26'35 shape, i'm sure he wouda stuck to the 10k but reports emerged that track running was giving him achilles tendon pain & this seems more likely reason he moved up to the M than geating beat by kennster
he wouda "matured" by '08 & if already a 26'30 - 26'35 guy in '05, i'm pretty sure if he'd stuck to 10k he wouda been well below 26'20 by peking & maybe nearer 26'10
he wouda had a close to 50/50 shot of 10k gold in '08 & i doubt his decision to move to M was anything to do with his '05 defeat rather than injury worries about track running
ventolin^3 wrote:
that is not the whole story
sammy went thru 6k just behind kennster in 26'16 pace !!!
if he'd not run so damn recklessly for a raw kid & paced it better ( i e much slower to 6k point, he wouda finished much stronger ) he shouda gone ~ 26'30 - 26'35 that day
seeing as he was so young at the time & it was 3y to peking games, & already in likely 26'30 - 26'35 shape, i'm sure he wouda stuck to the 10k but reports emerged that track running was giving him achilles tendon pain & this seems more likely reason he moved up to the M than geating beat by kennster
he wouda "matured" by '08 & if already a 26'30 - 26'35 guy in '05, i'm pretty sure if he'd stuck to 10k he wouda been well below 26'20 by peking & maybe nearer 26'10
he wouda had a close to 50/50 shot of 10k gold in '08 & i doubt his decision to move to M was anything to do with his '05 defeat rather than injury worries about track running
I agree, Wanjiru would have been faster in 2008 and would have challenged for gold. But he still would have had to face Bekele in his prime. Injuries might have been a factor. Another one is money. Wanjiru made more running marathons than he ever could have on the track.
I'm sure that Wanjiru himself didn't move up to avoid racing Bekele. He was a fearless competitor.
But other guys who were low 27 10k guys probably did. Even if you could run 27 flat with a 55 second last lap you couldn't beat Bekele from 2003-2009.
Geb ran his first marathon in 2002, though he was still track focused until 2004. In 2005 he was undefeated on the roads. In 2006 he won Berlin and had the fastest time of the year. In 2007 he set the world record.
If Bekele wants to follow Geb's lead he needs to run a marathon this year or next year so he's ready to do it full time by 2016-7.
And even if he does eventually run under 2:04 he won't be dominant like Geb was. He will HAVE to run that fast, just to be competitive with Mutai, Makau, Mosop, Kipsang, Kirui, etc, etc, etc.
Kenny is definitely on the list for a big half early in the fall. The only question is Chicago or NYC. I'm sure Nike wants him in Chicago but NYC pays the big bucks for this kind of thing. I'm kind of feeling NYC.