This is basically True's 2nd year at this level after getting over that skiing thang. He's got plenty of time left. I am also not aware of Pre ever leading the USA to a silver medal team finish at World Cross country. I also wonder WHEN this message board is going to get over a guy who died almost 40 years ago.
yupup wrote:
ben true could actually tear rupp apart in a legit fight. man vs. little boy
Man v doping elf
light_em_up wrote:
Ben True ran a pr for 1500 meters over the last 1500 in that 5,000. 3:38.6 to Lagat's 3:37.2. He ran 3:40.1 at Mt Sac this year with 3:00 at 1200, so I guess he was faster than 3:40 anyway.
He ran 3:38.6, or you guess he was under 3:40?
Difference between the stud Ben True and Lagat/Rupp/Ritz is that he has way fewer miles on his legs than any of them. Lots of upside, still.
Emil C wrote:
He is just like Pre all right - finishes fourth to superior runners, yet is endlessly hyped up by clueless fanboys.
If you think Ryan hill is superior to Ben true you are an idiot.
Dennis Reynolds wrote:
Emil C wrote:He is just like Pre all right - finishes fourth to superior runners, yet is endlessly hyped up by clueless fanboys.
If you think Ryan hill is superior to Ben true you are an idiot.
Last time I checked Hill walked down True in the National Champs 5k just like Rupp walked down the Bekele bros in the Oly 10k.
Last time I checked Hill will be going to Worlds while True will be sitting at home trolling LetsRun.
Hill > True.
Emil C wrote:
Dennis Reynolds wrote:If you think Ryan hill is superior to Ben true you are an idiot.
Last time I checked Hill walked down True in the National Champs 5k just like Rupp walked down the Bekele bros in the Oly 10k.
Last time I checked Hill will be going to Worlds while True will be sitting at home trolling LetsRun.
Hill > True.
So even though true is 12 seconds faster hill is just better, face the facts Hill will not get the b standard and hill will go to moscow. This would be like Rupp beating gebremeskal in that 3k and stating that from your scientifical expertise than galen is better at the 5k.
False you lose
Hill is better.
He beat True.
He is going to the World Champs.
Drinking/driving, placing 4th jokes aside - if the OP's point was that True pushed the pace like Pre was known for, then he's pretty wrong. Pre led early. True made a desperate grab with a mile to go. It was probably his best shot, and commendable, but like others have said - he wasn't going regardless. Not enough speed to take down the kickers, not enough endurance to take it out of the true distance guys.
But cool to see a guy go for it like that, it's just not the hammer-from-the-gun mentality that Pre had.
Pre didn't take off until after 3k against Viren.
Emil C, I'm just curious. Are you EXTREMELY stupid? Because if you're not, you're an illusionist.
the highlander wrote:
lumbarjack wrote:True and pre have more guts than any pro runners right now (except bekele)
you must be joking. ever heard of Gebrhiwet?
"lumbarjack" is right. Hagos Gebrhiwet showed Rupp what's up in Boston.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjf4STHDtvowatch if you don't believe me.
J.R. wrote:
light_em_up wrote:Ben True ran a pr for 1500 meters over the last 1500 in that 5,000. 3:38.6 to Lagat's 3:37.2. He ran 3:40.1 at Mt Sac this year with 3:00 at 1200, so I guess he was faster than 3:40 anyway.
He ran 3:38.6, or you guess he was under 3:40?
His official PR of 3:40.1 was run with splits of 3 flat at 1200 and a 40 second final 300. It seems like he had the potential at the time to run faster based on splits like that, so I'm kind of negating the hubbub I tried to stir by clamoring on about the 3:38.6 he ran for a new 'PR'.
light_em_up wrote:
I'm kind of negating the hubbub I tried to stir by clamoring on about the 3:38.6 he ran for a new 'PR'.
Where did he run a 3:38.6 new PR?
J.R. wrote:
light_em_up wrote:I'm kind of negating the hubbub I tried to stir by clamoring on about the 3:38.6 he ran for a new 'PR'.
Where did he run a 3:38.6 new PR?
USATF 5,000 m final
11:17 at 3500 m
finish time for true is 14:55.6
Nonsensical rants of a lunatic wrote:
zxcvbnm wrote:In the 5000, True didn't share the delusion that he could let the pace continue to drag and then outkick Rupp, Lagat, and everyone else in the race. Rather than take a chance with that, he counted on the his superior fitness to winnow the field, which it did. That was sensible racing that increased his odds of a top 3 or 4 finish, whether or not it actually resulted in him getting on the team.
Ben true outkicked milers in 3:40 race he should have waited for lagat to move and aimed for third place which he could have gotten. Now he has to wait and see if ryan hill runs under 1320
This ^ he should have waited longer it would have gotten him 3rd for sure. Dumb move, a lot like Pre
and last
Umm. . . ever heard of Jordan Hasay?
Jay Yell wrote:
Umm. . . ever heard of Jordan Hasay?
wat about him? ben ture and pre would smoke his ass.
BEN TRUE wrote:
YOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST.
He drunk drove into a rock?