Yeah, the PED's made him run 12+ seconds faster than his natural limit.
Also, love the gibberish post about his diet. What do you know about his diet? I love people who have fanatical obsessions about a topic and try to include that topic into every post they make.
"3:42 is probably what he was always capable of off PEDs.
he was a talent but one that was PED-enhanced when he ran a 3:46 mile and 3:53 HS mile. don't be delusional.
his dad is a doctor just like mary caine's, they both could have easily banked blood and monitored epo levels for their kids"
hey einstein
why do you think he stopped takin peds?
I don't think Webb was ever doping. He's simply an enormous talent who was ruined by mental illness. Such a shame.
Cain, on the other hand, is a complete fraud. Between Daddy Doctor and Saladbar I don't believe she's clean in the slightest.
Too many coaching changes (inconsistency). Over-thinks his training (anxiety and doubt). Trained too hard for a long time (physically exhausted). These are the reasons Webb is burned out and will never be world class again.
He had a good run there for a while though. He's the AR holder, both as a pro and a high schooler. He won multiple US championships. Went to the Olympics a couple times. Not too shabby. He's simply not going to the leave the legendary legacy the fans hoped for.
nothin wrong with 3-46
if you scratch morcelli and el g off the mile all-time for obvious doping
you're back at 3-46
He will continure to struggle unless he changes things, he is mentally and physically ill and drained. He is not too old, and can still compete on a world level if he gets his act together. Here is what I suggest.
1) take 2 weeks to a month completely off distance running, and do not even spend time thinking about running during this month---he needs to mentally and physically refresh
2)start back by playing other sports that involve running ex. soccer/basketball, lifting weights
3)gradually cycle into running again, starting off slowly with no expectations
4)build a consistent running base, touch on speedwork and lift weights for explosive stregth regularly
5)get into regular running workouts, tempos, 600-1k reps, XC type stuff
6)do a couple races to have fun, ex. XC race/road race/obstacle race
BUILD CONFIDENCE
HAVE NO WORRIES
MAKE IT FUN
NO CONCERNS ABOUT PERFORMANCE
LET THINGS FLOW NATURALLY
THe world record was 3:43 right?! That's a WR, why aren't people getting more excited about this?!?!
I'm going to go downstairs and tell my neighbor, who loves running!
Yes! He's back
I predict Alan Webb will become Oympic champion in Rio.
Today is June 16th. There remain 3 months of track meets on the pro circuit in Europe.
This performance should be seen as an excellent sign for Webb.
There is no doubt in my mind his future on the track will be brilliant.
I predict Alan Webb will be the next Olympic champion.
Today is June 16th. There remain 3 months of track meets on the pro circuit in Europe.
This performance should be seen as an excellent sign for Webb.
There is no doubt in my mind his future on the track will be brilliant.
These doping accusations with no evidence are comical but they are "boy who cried wolf."
So you got Armstrong. You were wrong 20 other times.
just sayin wrote:
"3:42 is probably what he was always capable of off PEDs.
he was a talent but one that was PED-enhanced when he ran a 3:46 mile and 3:53 HS mile. don't be delusional.
his dad is a doctor just like mary caine's, they both could have easily banked blood and monitored epo levels for their kids"
hey einstein
why do you think he stopped takin peds?
Ha! his dad is an economist
I enjoy the cognitive dissonance that occurs when people who always accuse other athletes of being on PEDs, get all worked up when their favorites are accused of being on PEDs, Since Webb left Sleezer and went off PEDs hes has deteriorated. Therefore he is off Meds
just sayin wrote:
why do you think he stopped takin peds?
Octa wrote:
I am the voice of reason. He runs 28 something or makes the US team then what. I can feel your frustration/hope all in one but if I were a betting man, I wouldn't put my own money on Webb. Webb is an atypical athlete who seems to struggle at things he should have perfected by this stage of his career. I can never figure out whether his problems are physical, mental, or both. Can you think of anyone who has had a similar weird career (outside of injuries)and came back to dominate?
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Perhaps Webb has aged in an atypical way? Remember, he ran 3:53 in HS, 3:47 at 24. And he was balding at an early age. It's seems like he was about 6 or 7 years ahead of the normal aging process. He's now more like a 36 or 37 year man?
never let the facts get in the way of a good story
Big fan of Webb. Hope he has one last comeback in those legs!
relax wrote:
3:42 is probably what he was always capable of off PEDs.
he was a talent but one that was PED-enhanced when he ran a 3:46 mile and 3:53 HS mile. don't be delusional.
his dad is a doctor just like mary caine's, they both could have easily banked blood and monitored epo levels for their kids.
seriously dude.
WHoaaa! wrote:
Yes! He's back
What planet are you on? I mean really, BACK?? I don't think so!! Probably will never be.
Cut the guy some slack. He's finally healthy again after some injury setbacks this winter and is racing back into fitness. He just ran 3:45.59 at Pre two weeks ago, so 3:42.88 is a nice improvement. He'll be running again at the Harry Jerome meet in two weeks and I wouldn't be surprised to at least see him dip back under 3:40.
Agree. Webb should get credit for getting out there and running into shape. he is not too proud to use these meets as a measure of progress. I hope he turns himself into a good 10000 runner in a year or so.You have to take your lumps to get back to the top. Progression is not always linear. Don't give up Allen! You may have another good stretch.
nikeman wrote:
Cut the guy some slack. He's finally healthy again after some injury setbacks this winter and is racing back into fitness. He just ran 3:45.59 at Pre two weeks ago, so 3:42.88 is a nice improvement. He'll be running again at the Harry Jerome meet in two weeks and I wouldn't be surprised to at least see him dip back under 3:40.
I think I have an objective point of view on Webb. He's 30, maybe 31. He has put mileage on his tires over his lifetime of a track professional in his late 30s. He achieved what he did mostly through sheer hard work and dedication to running. Not as much to any talent. In other words he is no Bernard Lagat.
I think people should face up to him being like what Salazar was or Jim Ryun. Great at a young age but paid the price, was getting over the hill by his mid 20s and by 30 he was toast.
Not that I don't think its fine that he is still out there trying his best and competing. But he's like watching Arnold Palmer playing at a major championship in the 1980s. You spend a few seconds seeing how he is doing. Maybe enjoy a good highlight birdie he puts up. But otherwise you ignore him and pay attention to the people seriously vying for a championship.
I don't know why people on this board are so caught up in the notion of a serious comeback to elite level by Webb.