Simple Runner wrote:
That "Belgian scrub" got 5th in the Olympics and has a PB of 44.56.
and the Olympian sister has a little of that cutsie vibe going for her
http://static.ladh.eu/pictures_news/art_153349.jpghttp://3f.img.v4.skyrock.net/2143/47982143/pics/1941746955_1.jpgWhy not cut the guy some slack instead of the constant negative crap. Even though Rudisha won, a 1:45 ain't that good for Rudisha either. Quoting Rojo ("given the horribly cool and windy conditions") how could anybody expect something fast on a day like that. Wariner is at least top 5-10 in the world at his current state. He did beat McQuay, last year's #2 US guy - right? The difference between 1 and 3 was only 1/10 of a second. He was the first one tapped to fill in on the 4x400 last year until his injury. He's good role model for the sport (God knows it needs it) and what other top 10 world athlete walks away with still some good years left on the legs. It's not a bad way to make a living. If every sub #1 left the sport, really wouldn't be much to watch and then everybody would be complaining. If he jumped up to the 800 at some point in the next 2 years his 400 time would still have him in the top 5 in the world of 800 runners - and unlike most 400 runners he does have the perfect build for that race (Can't imagine Merritt doing it!)
The perfect build for the 800 is what?
Peter Snell? Seb Coe? Alberto Juantorena?
No such thing as the perfect builld
I was thinking Rudisha is the perfect example, although there are many other shapes and sizes that do quite well at the distance. Point being, he is not too big to make the transition. Juantoreno was really kind of a freak of nature (Cruz was big, but not that big) and I am not sure if we have seen anybody else like him since that time.
Snell, Fiasconaro, Juantorena, Rudisha all kind of big guys.
So were OG gold medalists Rodal, and the German guy
Coe, Kipketer, Borza, et al not so much
Yes, Wariner's still great, no doubt about it. If I were top 10 in the world in the 400m, I would be running.
But I'm not Wariner. He has seen better days. To go down competing is honorable, but at some point he will know that he will not win. I think that point will come this season when he tries hard, is not injured, and still does not make the US team.
By "finished", I mean finished at the top, of course. A shadow of his former self.
What about his back?
At the back?
If he had held it together for the 4x4 maybe the US would have won Gold, giving Wariner his 4th.
wouldn't say 'he's back' until he runs a coupla races in low(er) 44s. mid 44s would put him at least one second slower than his PR. He used to run 44s with some regularity
I think that Wariner has fallen to the #10 position on the US list after the NCAA's.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
I think that Wariner has fallen to the #10 position on the US list after the NCAA's.
Yeah but now the NCAA guys have to train for a couple of weeks to get back in it for nationals. Likely all or most of them were tapering for NCAA's.
True, and I think the timing between the two doesn't really favor 2 good peaks. But as long as they get good rest, more than one of them will be likely to beat Wariner.
Unless Wariner pulls a Bolt.
I really don't think either will beat Wariner, I think he's getting it together and will go low 44's soon.
Or he's just pulling everyone's leash and won't even break 45.
"I really don't think either will beat Wariner, I think he's getting it together and will go low 44's soon."
Yes, but then again you are a self-described turd nugget.
No offense.
Exactly like I said--folded like a cheap lawn chair and didn't make the team.
Hey d, are you convinced NOW?
I will say it again: he is incapable of any significant training response.
Not only did he flame in Des Moines, we will never again see him run a seriously fast 400m.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Exactly like I said--folded like a cheap lawn chair and didn't make the team.
Hey d, are you convinced NOW?
I will say it again: he is incapable of any significant training response.
Not only did he flame in Des Moines, we will never again see him run a seriously fast 400m.
What do you consider fast?
I don't know what happened to him yesterday, it looked like he did a Manzano, realized he wasn't going to run the way he wanted and bailed. However, he is still a legit world-class 400m runner...low 45 type and possibly sub-45 on a good day.
didnt make the team?! he finished dead fckin last. might have lost to some pasties from d3 wisconsin schools.
