This was her big chance...
LetsRun.com note: Hasay didn't advance. Our recap of the event is here:
This was her big chance...
LetsRun.com note: Hasay didn't advance. Our recap of the event is here:
Are there splits available somewhere? Maybe she just couldn't change gears after a slow start?
RuKiddingMe!! wrote:
poor jordan, i can remember when her mother pulled her of a race because of the heat....after starting with 5:01 first mile....in HS
Jordan has never done well in the HEAT....doesn't fair well for her
maybe time to consider the 1500 again
Your mother pulled you of a race.
Also, you can say someone "didn't fare well" in a race, but you can't say that something doesn't "fair well for them". That is totally wrong, in two ways.
Heat Index during 1500 heats-92
during 10000m-88
What will it be like in Brazil in 2016?
They'll be the Young Turks in '16
From someone at the meet. These is my observations:
1. The heat was a big factor, if you train is Eugene this spring with temperatures in 50s, then you ran a 10k at 85/86 F. You gonna fill it
2. This is personal observation, from the way she appeared at the finishing line, the 10k training might be talking toll of her. She appeared so skinny, I could be wrong but it will be at-least one season before she is fully comfortable with 10k. I felt for her today,you could tell she really wanted to be in the final but this was not her day.
looking ahead wrote:
Heat Index during 1500 heats-92
during 10000m-88
What will it be like in Brazil in 2016?
They'll be the Young Turks in '16
very Humid and warm in Aug
http://weatherspark.com/averages/33435/8/Rio-de-Janeiro-BrazilRe heat: It will certainly affect you, but couldn't the coaches have prepared her for it... They knew the race was in Austin (and USAs will be hot too). All you have to do is wear layers/sweats when you run And you get most of the adaptations in a few weeks. I imagine they could have gotten time in the temp/humidity controlled rooms that Ritz trained in before beijing too.
It's just bad coaching if heat was the real reason she faded. She should have easily qualified.
Anotherone1 wrote:
From someone at the meet. These is my observations:
1. The heat was a big factor, if you train is Eugene this spring with temperatures in 50s, then you ran a 10k at 85/86 F. You gonna fill it
2. This is personal observation, from the way she appeared at the finishing line, the 10k training might be talking toll of her. She appeared so skinny, I could be wrong but it will be at-least one season before she is fully comfortable with 10k. I felt for her today,you could tell she really wanted to be in the final but this was not her day.
She needs to learn a lesson or two from Rupp/Salazar:
Two days later, Rupp turned the thermostat up to 78 degrees in his Eugene apartment and ran on the treadmill that shares much of his living room with a small pile of shoes. By running in the sweltering, stuffy room, he aimed to approximate the heat and humidity of Fayetteville, Ark.
Anotherone1 wrote:
From someone at the meet. These is my observations:
1. The heat was a big factor, if you train is Eugene this spring with temperatures in 50s, then you ran a 10k at 85/86 F. You gonna fill it
2. This is personal observation, from the way she appeared at the finishing line, the 10k training might be talking toll of her. She appeared so skinny, I could be wrong but it will be at-least one season before she is fully comfortable with 10k. I felt for her today,you could tell she really wanted to be in the final but this was not her day.
Your mom is gonna fill it.
1) Heat was definitely a factor. I think both Jordan and the coaching staff took this meet a little too lightly and didn't properly train for the warmer climate.
2) She'll be back in the 5K on Saturday and will do well. This gal is tough as nails.
heat train baby wrote:
Anotherone1 wrote:From someone at the meet. These is my observations:
1. The heat was a big factor, if you train is Eugene this spring with temperatures in 50s, then you ran a 10k at 85/86 F. You gonna fill it
2. This is personal observation, from the way she appeared at the finishing line, the 10k training might be talking toll of her. She appeared so skinny, I could be wrong but it will be at-least one season before she is fully comfortable with 10k. I felt for her today,you could tell she really wanted to be in the final but this was not her day.
She needs to learn a lesson or two from Rupp/Salazar:
http://www.oregonlive.com/trackandfield/index.ssf/2009/06/watching_rupp_go_the_ducks_are.htmlTwo days later, Rupp turned the thermostat up to 78 degrees in his Eugene apartment and ran on the treadmill that shares much of his living room with a small pile of shoes. By running in the sweltering, stuffy room, he aimed to approximate the heat and humidity of Fayetteville, Ark.
I remember this. Salazar learn the lesson from Bill McChesney, who prepped for hot temp running in the sauna with an exercise bike.
It was so unusual an idea at the time, TFN reported it.
I am wondering if the current Oregon coaches forgot these ideas...
Did she not have Alexi Pappas shouting inspirational things at her this time?
'This gal is tough as nails.'
Unless it's a bit warm
In other words, the course was not Hasay certified.
I'm thinking Jordan Hasay will have a short, unsuccessful pro career. She just doesn't seem to be able to consistently close in big college races.
When Oregon's fans (or press releases) give excuses, it's annoying. As if Oregon runners are SOOOOOO special they can't just have a bad day, get psyched out, be under-prepared, or--the horror--just not be good enough. No, there has to some outside factor. With all the running history and resources the Ducks have, they had to have anticipated heat in Texas in May. And yes, it was hot for everyone--not just Jordan. So if she couldn't handle it, then SHE wasn't one of the best runners that day. Now, it's true some people handle heat worse than others, but the ability to handle atmospheric factors is one of the many qualities that make talent and contribute to being a champion.
As for Saina, she doesn't get nearly enough love on here.
Amen. For reference, see Joan Benoit Samuelson, LA 1984.
pac12running wrote:
When Oregon's fans (or press releases) give excuses, it's annoying. As if Oregon runners are SOOOOOO special they can't just have a bad day, get psyched out, be under-prepared, or--the horror--just not be good enough. No, there has to some outside factor. With all the running history and resources the Ducks have, they had to have anticipated heat in Texas in May. And yes, it was hot for everyone--not just Jordan. So if she couldn't handle it, then SHE wasn't one of the best runners that day. Now, it's true some people handle heat worse than others, but the ability to handle atmospheric factors is one of the many qualities that make talent and contribute to being a champion.
As for Saina, she doesn't get nearly enough love on here.
sc runner wrote:
I'm thinking Jordan Hasay will have a short, unsuccessful pro career. She just doesn't seem to be able to consistently close in big college races.
Agreed. I always wondered why everyone was so hot on Hasay. She's physically weak and lacks power as shown in her shorter stuff. Her high school/early-collegiate PBs are nothing to speak of (Cain is far far ahead of her). She can never succeed in longer races internationally because she'll easily get dropped in the last 400/800. I don't see her being anywhere near qualifying for Rio, she should just pack it in, really. Or just run for fun.
The above comments are only wrt her running, in interviews she seems to be a very kind and generous spirit and a great teammate.
But...maybe AlSal takes her on and improves her finish as he did with Rupp. Somehow I think not though, he knows a diamond in the Ruff when he sees one.
What's the big deal wrote:
Somehow I think not though, he knows a diamond in the Ruff when he sees one.
Based on what? When has he ever coached a ruff?
Agreed. I always wondered why everyone was so hot on Hasay. She's physically weak and lacks power as shown in her shorter stuff. Her high school/early-collegiate PBs are nothing to speak of (Cain is far far ahead of her). She can never succeed in longer races internationally because she'll easily get dropped in the last 400/800. I don't see her being anywhere near qualifying for Rio, she should just pack it in, really. Or just run for fun.
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Seriously one of the dumbest things I've read on here that I can't decide if you're trolling or not. Before Cain, she was the fastest HS miler and a very top 2mile runner with two Footlocker records. She's been top 3 at NCAA XCountry Champs for three years, has a couple of NCAA track titles, and is usually a very top performer.
She might not be winning every single race but she's always in the mis. If you can't see why people were always 'so hot on Hasay' then you're an idiot.