R.A rugged man wrote:
wisconsin men
What?
R.A rugged man wrote:
wisconsin men
What?
The entire OK team under-performed. I guess mercenaries perform in September and October, but not in November. Two of the transfers didn't even score. Now they graduate 5 scholarship runners and face difficulties even qualifying for nationals next year. Mortgaging the future is dangerous and didn't even get a top five finish. 4 sub-4 milers and 4 5th year senior transfers = 8th place.
Go back to Bridgewater.
WORST PERFORMANCES:
1) 240th Parker Stinson Oregon
2) 228th Martin Medina Colorado
3) 205th Hugh Dowdy Colorado
4) 244th Jason Witt BYU
5) 201st Maksim Korolev Harvard
6) 182nd Matt Sonnenfeldt NC State
7) 188th Rex Shields BYU
8) 166th Jim Rosa Stanford
9) 175th Michael Heller Kent State
10) 194th Thijs Nijhuis EKU
11) 125th Dan Lowry Michigan
12) 137th Tyler Stutzman Stanford
13) 227th Sean Stam New Mexico
14) 112th Joe Rosa Stanford
15) 181st Johnnie Guy Purdue
DNFs
1) Matt Gillespie Iona
2) Craig Lutz Texas
3) James Leakos Harvard
4) Rich Peters BU
5) Brayden Burleigh Virginia Tech
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BEST IMPROVEMENT PERFORMANCES:
1) 85th Elmar Engholm New Mexico
2) 80th Nathan Weitz NAU
3) 91st Thomas Gruenewald BYU
4) 116th JR Ricker Indiana
5) 92nd Max Straneva Syracuse
6) 104th Robby Nierman Indiana
7) 126th Sam Evans New Mexico
8) 30th Peter Okwera Tennessee
9) 33rd Matt Johnsen Lamar
10) 68th James Hodges Texas A&M
11) 65th Connor Winter Colorado
12) 93rd Marc Scott Tulsa
13) 49th Rob Finnerty Wisconsin
14) 138th Ole Hesselbjerg EKU
15) 142nd Brian Himelright N.C. State
16) 43rd Chris Bendtsen Princeton
17) 148th Evan Esselink Indiana
18) 113th Alex Hatz Wisconsin
19) 56th Max Storms Missouri
20) 84th Conner Peloquin BYU
red plague wrote:
Stanford Men. such choke artists. what happens when you have Gingers on your team.
THIS.
Definitely would say Craig Lutz and Parker Stinson
Medina ran hurt, did you see him hop up on to the podium supported by his teammates.
WORST PERFORMANCES:
2) 228th Martin Medina Colorado
fun. wrote:
BEST IMPROVEMENT PERFORMANCES:
1) 85th Elmar Engholm New Mexico
2) 80th Nathan Weitz NAU
3) 91st Thomas Gruenewald BYU
4) 116th JR Ricker Indiana
5) 92nd Max Straneva Syracuse
6) 104th Robby Nierman Indiana
7) 126th Sam Evans New Mexico
8) 30th Peter Okwera Tennessee
9) 33rd Matt Johnsen Lamar
10) 68th James Hodges Texas A&M
11) 65th Connor Winter Colorado
12) 93rd Marc Scott Tulsa
13) 49th Rob Finnerty Wisconsin
14) 138th Ole Hesselbjerg EKU
15) 142nd Brian Himelright N.C. State
16) 43rd Chris Bendtsen Princeton
17) 148th Evan Esselink Indiana
18) 113th Alex Hatz Wisconsin
19) 56th Max Storms Missouri
20) 84th Conner Peloquin BYU
I think you're missing a few names here. Here is one:
Aric Van Halen, Colorado
2009 -- 130th
2010 -- 177th
2011 -- didn't compete
2012 -- 36th
Brian Shrader spent two years at Oregon and struggled to make the team. Then transfers to NAU and beats all of the Ducks at NCAAs today. Quite a turnaround. Similar turnaround for NAU's Matt McElroy who transferred from Oklahoma State, helping put NAU onto the podium. I wonder why more talented high school kids don't choose NAU, given the altitude, great trails and solid program.
Teed off OK alum wrote:
The entire OK team under-performed. I guess mercenaries perform in September and October, but not in November. Two of the transfers didn't even score. Now they graduate 5 scholarship runners and face difficulties even qualifying for nationals next year. Mortgaging the future is dangerous and didn't even get a top five finish. 4 sub-4 milers and 4 5th year senior transfers = 8th place.
Go back to Bridgewater.
Maybe it's because they didn't spend the Fall training in Flagstaff this year? As an NAU runner said to me on being recruited to Oklahoma, "if I'm going to be training in Flagstaff, why wouldn't I just go to NAU?"
Bolder1 wrote:
Brian Shrader spent two years at Oregon and struggled to make the team. Then transfers to NAU and beats all of the Ducks at NCAAs today. Quite a turnaround. Similar turnaround for NAU's Matt McElroy who transferred from Oklahoma State, helping put NAU onto the podium. I wonder why more talented high school kids don't choose NAU, given the altitude, great trails and solid program.
Add "great coaching" in there as well.
*Disclaimer: Proud NAU Cross Country alumnus*
Easy - Delta Timing Group
NC State
:-)) wrote:
NC State
Is it really choking if everyone expects you to choke?
They must put something in the North Carolina water during every Championship season. How else to you explain the total disasters that are NC State, UNC, Duke, and Wake EVERY year, during EVERY season.
To all you high schoolers out there...DON"T go to college in North Carolina!
They recruit state champions and Footlocker guys every year and do nothing with them except get them hurt. That's too bad.
lutz is lame. he's so tough and solid in october.....then mr fizzle. i hope he becomes a good competitive runner in the next 2 years when it matters because i'm tired of hearing how awesome he is and being disappointed later. maybe a good year of track?
Lawi Lalang surprised with third but a fast time and Sambu we know is good but if you think he disappointed by losing to Kennedy Kithuka, you don't realize just how good Kithuka is. He's been under the radar because he was running in NAIA but dominated there, just toying with the other runners.
Saina... She barely beat out girls 3-4 years younger than her...
Not sure if this is fair. Nc state makes the dance every year, duke has made it 3 of the last 4. UNC had the one great recruiting class but then a coaching change. Does wake even get any good recruits? I think those teams are doing fine with what they get recruits-wise.
Craig Lutz a pre-season top-five whimpers to DNF. He is the official choke artist of 2012.
Lutz crying after he stopped.
Injury or Jenny B meltdown from going out too fast?
R.A rugged man wrote:
Lawi , Parker Stinson, Wisconsin men
Strinson was 240/203 and Dunbar was 41/30, and without Dunbar's transfer, they might have finished 29th back with Iona. Dan Lowry for Michigan was picked by some to be top 10 and was 125 (97pts)
Wisconsin's men were rated 4th and finished second -- Iona's were ranked #2 -> 29
Note, Indiana was -6 even without their #1/2 guy, they might have beaten out Texas for 9th (for a -15) with Bayer running.
0/ 1 Oklahoma State (9) 354 Midwest Big 12
+27/2 Iona 330 Northeast Metro Atlantic
+16/2 Stanford (1) 330 West Pac-12
-2/4 Wisconsin 307 Great Lakes Big Ten
+4/5 Texas 304 South Central Big 12
+2/6 Oklahoma 300 Midwest Big 12
-4/7 Colorado (2) 289 Mountain Pac-12
-2/8 BYU 259 Mountain West Coast
+3/9 Portland 241 West West Coast
-6/10 Northern Arizona 232 Mountain Big Sky
-1/11 Arkansas 231 South Central SEC
-5/12 Tulsa 219 Midwest Conference USA
-10/13 Michigan 199 Great Lakes Big Ten
0/14 Virginia 173 Southeast ACC
+1/14 Syracuse 173 Northeast Big East
+4/16 Oregon 169 West Pac-12
17 Eastern Kentucky 162 Southeast
-13/18 Florida State 155 South ACC
+7/18 Georgetown 155 Mid-Atlantic Big East
-3/20 Columbia 143 Northeast Ivy
0/21 New Mexico 133 Mountain Mountain
-9/22 UCLA 129 West Pac-12
-12/23 Princeton 120 Mid-Atlantic Ivy
-6/24 Indiana 103 Great Lakes Big Ten
+2/25 Villanova 102 Mid-Atlantic Big East
-4/26 Virginia Tech 77 Southeast ACC
-2/27 Georgia 63 South SEC
+2/28 NC State 58 Southeast ACC
-1/29 Notre Dame 20 Great Lakes Big East
+1/30 Michigan State 19 Great Lakes Big Ten
1 OK State 1 3 11 17 40 79 134 72
2 Wisconsin 2 4 5 36 88 168 175 135
3 Colorado 24 26 28 33 47 169 192 158
4 N. Arizona 8 23 48 54 58 164 178 191
5 FL State 14 21 45 55 103 158 188 238
6 BYU 7 25 62 69 82 154 207 245
7 Tulsa 13 32 59 71 72 107 113 247
8 Oklahoma 38 49 52 56 67 95 140 262
9 Texas 12 37 75 81 86 179 -- 291
10 Arkansas 10 34 61 99 123 167 171 327
11 Princeton 31 43 57 106 121 130 204 358
12 Portland 19 42 89 96 119 177 182 365
13 UCLA 18 64 68 100 126 141 195 376
14 Virginia 15 51 76 85 155 201 -- 382
15 Syracuse 41 50 70 94 150 156 174 405
16 Stanford 35 65 87 109 112 136 -- 408
17 Columbia 44 53 77 127 138 173 186 439
18 Indiana 6 80 90 118 162 165 180 456
19 Georgia 73 83 92 93 125 142 176 466
20 Oregon 30 74 115 124 129 184 203 472
21 New Mexico 20 63 98 105 187 191 -- 473
22 VA Tech 22 60 66 183 185 -- -- 516
23 Michigan 78 97 104 117 122 152 -- 518
24 E. Kentucky 27 29 110 160 196 199 200 522
25 Georgetown 46 102 111 132 143 159 206 534
26 N.C. State 9 114 135 144 148 170 208 550
27 Villanova 84 116 120 131 137 163 197 588
28 Notre Dame 39 91 108 151 202 205 -- 591
29 Iona 16 133 139 145 193 198 -- 626
30 Duke 101 146 149 157 172 181 194 725
31 Mich. State 128 147 153 161 166 189 190 755