joerun wrote:
Who cares what the elite runners are going to do.
Apparently you, since you clicked on this thread.
joerun wrote:
Who cares what the elite runners are going to do.
Apparently you, since you clicked on this thread.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/11/04/sports/no-nyc-marathon-means-no-prize-money.htmljoerun wrote:
Who cares what the elite runners are going to do.
Some perspective. It's a pretty big blow. Obviously there are worse things happening right now than some elite runners not getting paid, but I'm very interested in how they respond to this.
NYC should refund all entry fees to participants and give additional compensation for those who traveled to NYC for the race
What about my $260, Wejo? I am dead serious, please try to get some answers about our entry fees. Are they going to charity? Are they going to be rolled into next year's race? Can we run for free next year?
Please look into this as it is a big deal to me, that is a lot of money to some of us and, personally, I hope it goes to charity if they cannot return it.
Does it not seem odd that they would just keep the money? That does not seem right.
You should be able to run free of charge next year and the entry fees not returned to the entrants should go for Sandy relief for thus year. Blame Mayor Bloomberg for his indecision.
Agreed. Elite runners are not professional football players. They are not, by any of the stretch, rich. The mass majority are, in fact, middle class or under.
NYRR is a business, plain and simple. I fully expect them to pocket as much of the revenue as possible. In addition, they will try to limit the amount of appearance fees and prize money they have to pay the elites. At the end of the day, unless a special interest group puts a ton of pressure on them to give a large portion of the revenues to charity, not running the NYC Marathon is a huge cost savings for NYRR. Personally, I hope they get their pants sued off. Road races have become big business, much the same as college football. They say it's about the fans and the athletes, but that's a sales pitch. I feel for the area affected by the hurricane as much as anybody, but the race should not have been cancelled. Postponed maybe, but not cancelled. The company that supplies those generators that ended up in the NY Post has plenty of them to go around. The reality is that the affected people/areas may/may not have the money or the resources in place to pay for them. NYRR does. Whether the race was run or cancelled isn't going to change this. Last time I checked, Sandy is not Katrina. An entire city was underwater with Katrina, looting was occurring, tons of people who didn't evacuate were still trapped in their homes days after the storm had passed. NYC isn't experiencing this. Sorry for the rant, but you aren't getting your money back and NYRR is going to keep as much of it as possible. And the police aren't going to get as much overtime pay as a result.
not getting my money or time wrote:
Why would any runner from outside of NYC want to help with the recovery after many of the city's citizens threatened to spit on, throw rotten food at, trip, boo... you get the picture... marathon runners? This was the real reason the race was cancelled. The city was worried that some crazy, nut-jobs would assault the runners and open up the possibility of major lawsuits, against the race and city, since they should have seen it coming.
If I have any money to donate to suffering people, it's going to Africa, or somewhere where the affected aren't entitled, whiny brats.
Same here, also New York is the home of the stock market, and the thieving Federal Reserve / IRS.
The least I would do is file with the credit card company for return of the entry fee. Why anyone would want to run the NY marathon is a mystery.
It looks like the NYRR is going to donate $1M and water, blankets and portable toilets...so $20-$50/runner if 40,000-50,000 runners paid to run. I'm sure the rest of your entry will stay with NYRR because the race is their biggest revenue maker of the year. In addition, expect to pay full-price next year. I hate it for all the business owners in the city who rely on this pay day as well. Sorry...see the story below. The race was cancelled as a PR move, nothing more. The revenue loss will be suffered by many, but NYRR will figure out a way to make money out of this. "Momma didn't raise no fool" -Mary W.
I'm not sure how they could keep the entry fees(if they are), and also collect on the cancellation insurance.
Can anyone actually imagine the reaction of a self-important, self-entitled 4hr fuel-belt hobby jogger who is out a couple thousand dollars to an elite-only event? "But they got to run...":reaches for pacifier.I wish the scenario were different but this makes up the majority of the field.
The Quenton Cassidamius wrote:
I would really like to know what the elite athletes are going to do now. If it were up to me an elite only race would be held. I think making the race elite only could actually help to promote the sport of distance running. People would see the competition side not just the hobby jogging side of the marathon.
I guess it depends on the policy and how bad the insurance company wants to fight them on it.
To the elite runners, I say:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kX8Qqu_WBIc
Seriously, you guys run for a living. It is a screwed up world that pays people to do what should be something (running) that enhances your life, not becomes the full focus of it anyway.
No marathon should be "too big to fail"
People are dying in NY and you skinny little bird turds want to talk about yourselves ? Why no chip in with the 100,000 US Navy SEALS sent from Newport News, Virginia and help save lives.
joerun wrote:
Who cares what the elite runners are going to do.
This. Poor poor people who run for a living. Get a real job if you really need $$$. People are in utter chaos in the vicinity of the race.
Is it confirmed that they have cancellation insurance?
If so, someone in the press needs to ask them why they even have insurance to cover a cancelled race if it's not needed in the event you have to refund everyone?
They already collected the race fees. If the sum of those entries covers the total amount required to cover the race expenses (maybe that is not true), then there should still be at least enough left in a bank account somewhere to pay the appearance fees and award money. Everything else is already collected and spent.
This is a trifling concern, but they should be paying all appearance fees and splitting the prize money between the invited pros.
+1
Astounding what a bunch of weenies runners have become. The elites can suck on it. Take some extra EPO and run another race you freaks. As for the midpackers, is it really going to kill you that you can't take part in the big parade? Disgusting. I am a runner, and now I hate runners.
what the heck? wrote:
Is it confirmed that they have cancellation insurance?
If so, someone in the press needs to ask them why they even have insurance to cover a cancelled race if it's not needed in the event you have to refund everyone?
Last year's premium was $427,000
A lot of the elites were poor, poor people who now run for a living because that was the only job they could get and their other choice was living in abject poverty in Africa. Can you really frequent this site and not be aware of that? Or are you just that stupid?
Yeah most of the elite runners from africa grew up in conditions much worse then the victims of sandy are currently in. These arent NFL players who make millions, the very best might make a million but the great majority make under 50000 and that is only for a max of 10 maybe 15 years. Is the hurricane a tragedy? yes. But most of the victims will have a completely normal life in a week or two. Two weeks of no power sucks but losing a third of some runners annual salary sucks worse.
How come the elites would not get their full appearance fee? They showed up for the race. Most of the contracts have a fee for showing up to the start line, and another amount for finishing the race.
Seems like you could even sue for the whole appearance starting fee.