Ryota Yamagata: First Asian to break 10 second barrier?

The Japanese are very explosive, just as explosive IMHO as guys who are obviously using. I think their problem lies in top-speed, not in SE, because they do seem to be able to maintain the top speed they can achieve pretty well.

You see them get blown away right around the 50m mark, like they are standing still. That is right when the highest-speed part of the 100 hits. They just can't seem to get there. Their absolute speed envelope is limited. Why? I don't know.

Longer-legged guys have seemed to have a greater speed envelope, just look at Bolt, Bailey, etc.--but there have been shorter guys who were great too, like, guess who? Johnson, Greene, Montgomery, Carter, Blake. The Johnson series of sprinters.

Charlie always claimed that the benefit of the roids was in the last half of the race. I think it's more than just SE, it's speed envelope.

Can the Japanese improve on it? It is dependent on their rearward foot speed, at Vmax. Longer legs help that, as the levers are longer. With shorter legs, you need more powerful contraction overall, which means a combo of more powerful contraction and more relaxed relaxation. With the way they accelerate over the first 40m, it is difficult for me to believe that they could have the power reserves needed to excel in the rest of the race. It is like a nation of Kim Collins's.

They should try as an experiment modeling some John Smith-type stuff, and running like Greene did, and seeing what happens.

Also, I think Bingtian Su is likely to do it sooner.

Check out this vid, where Yamagata gets blown away by none other than Su, in the last half:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjUknbNRyUk

Also, you can see how Yamagata explodes out in the first 40, right beside Collins.

Although Su also rockets out of the blocks, look at the difference between his form and Yamagata's.

Even though Su is maybe an inch shorter than Yamagata, look at the difference--Yamagata runs like Allan Wells, trunk carried forward, lots of backside action, little knee lift. That is not, NOT the way to generate the greatest rearward foot speed.

Now look at Su. Look at that knee lift! Look at the range of cycling of the upper leg. Look at the relaxation in backside action. It is a world apart from Yamagata, and MUCH better. He is only even with Yamagata at 50m, but then destroys him over the last half.

Su could do it, and he probably will, and it won't be at all surprising if he does. He might turn out to be a sort of Chinese Cason.

And yet, in the first round in London, it is Yamagata who blows away Su, AFTER 70m!

WTF?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z86xysw5Ncc

In this vid, Yamagata seems to have much better knee lift, and isn't leaning forward as much as in the other vid.

I still like Su to go under 10 first, but it will probably depend most on who gets lucky with wind first.

IDK, they seem maxxed-out.

I hope Warner, Vicaut, and Gemili go under 10 this year.

Of those guys, Vicaut has huge upside, because his weaknesses are so glaring.

I can't believe he goes 6.48 without a drive phase! This is a guy who basically stands up out of the blocks, then starts running. Horrible! 6.48! He should SO try to condition himself for the 200, and maybe even 400--he is MJ reincarnated.

Gemili also has huge upside, since he is so young, and he seems to naturally have good form.

Su got absolutely blown away in that race. Maybe it was a bad day for him.

Geezer do you know anything about Su or Ryota's upcoming seasons? Will be interesting to watch (although who knows whether we'll even see them outside of Asia until Worlds...)

Yamagata is making a bit of a Kawauchi-esque (kind of) move

http://japanrunningnews.blogspot.com/2014/07/olympic-sprinter-yamagata-turns-down.html

Hmmm...California? Where? Maybe he wants to start juicing. If so, 9.8 within a year, no problem.

Reading back through this thread, just look at all the stuff sg wrote, he really seemed invested in sprints. How could a guy that interested just disappear from the board?

Looks like Geezer was right

Bingtian Su! 9.99 today at Pre

Somewhere a lab technician has a small smile on his face while getting out a new batch of PED's......

Nice call on Su being first Asian under 10, which he did today with 9.99, although I thought that the guy SG didn't like Kiryu, had run several times under 10, maybe that was with excessive wind. Kiryu did run 9.87 with 3.3 at Texas Relays this year.

By the power of IGF-1 lr3 .........

Could see it coming a mile away!!!!!!!

Never been a ped like it before

that all about speed.

sure its all mass produced in china.

all top sprinters need to give thanks to em

Between him and japanese kid

on current form.

could of easily been other way round.