What was Jenny Simpson doing?

misewell b wrote:

expanding nearly any energy

I think you maita fuct this wun up. This issnt the Big Bang its the frigin Olympicks.

She's not a great tactical runner. That's nothing new. In college she usually just went to the front and led the whole way (or followed Sally Kipyego) and she just doesn't have a lot of experience running in a pack in the 1500 with women who are equally fast or faster. She also doesn't appear to like all of the jostling and elbowing in international races, which is pretty typical of American runners coming out of the NCAA where everyone is better behaved.

She does, however, have a great kick, which got her a medal last year and saved her yesterday. Her tactical ability will presumably improve with experience.

she doesn't have experience??? what planet are you from? she has run at worlds in 2007, 2009 and 2011 and now is in her 2nd olympics. she's more experienced than almost all of the contenders. how many more worlds and olympics does one need to be in before he/she is "experienced" in your book?

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Coaching is the issue here , clearly talent has allowed her to do some great things , to keep progressing she needs help beyond where she is at now.

Not sure she or the over involved hubbie can or will listen to reason.

Vessey syndrome. Possibly caused by coaching - she's gone from a sub-4 1500m to 4:13+ in only two years.

alanson wrote:

Vessey syndrome. Possibly caused by coaching - she's gone from a sub-4 1500m to 4:13+ in only two years.

Hey, lots of elite 800m runners put in a gruelilng 25 mpw, and some cross-training, like Vessey... it's time in the gym that matters, you know.

The fact that hundreds of high school girls train harder than her doesn't mean anything.

Yeah, yeah, Maggie's injury-prone, and all that... I was dumbfounded watching that Flotrack video of her regular training routine (a couple years ago). Seemed like she liked the lifestyle more than the work.

I thought that her coach was either a super-genius, or an idiot, or was letting her run the show because he wanted to get into her very nice pants.

Can't blame the guy if it was the latter.

alanson wrote:

Vessey syndrome. Possibly caused by coaching - she's gone from a sub-4 1500m to 4:13+ in only two years.

Actually, she's gone from non-medalist to World Champion in 4 years. I think if I was her, I'd be quite pleased with I've accomplished with "bad" coaching.

LOL at most of what is here.

Simpson herself said that there was a lot of pushing and shoving in the pack so she went to the back. With 200 to go she said she put her head down and didn't look up until the finish. She had a reason for being in the back and maybe got a little to complacent back there.

Her strategy resulted in me getting to see the most exciting quaterfinal in history. I think even better than the 1984 800M rounds. And they were great.

I also am worried about her semi, not just tactics, but she didn't look phyiscally strong. But what I love about Jenny is that she is full of surprises.

It is a great year for American distance runners.

[quote]misewell b wrote:

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She hung back for 1350m expanding nearly any energy, and you think a 150m kick is more draining?[/quote

Expanding energy?

Since college she has run appreciably slower in both the 1500 and 5000. I think she won the Worlds despite the coaching. What's the evidence of this? Every other race she has run! And you can't compare the Beijing Olympics when she was a college junior, to three (not four) years later. You should compare all her times in 2009 to all her times the last three years.

Coach D wrote:

alanson wrote:

Vessey syndrome. Possibly caused by coaching - she's gone from a sub-4 1500m to 4:13+ in only two years.

Actually, she's gone from non-medalist to World Champion in 4 years. I think if I was her, I'd be quite pleased with I've accomplished with "bad" coaching.

LOL at most of what is here.

Vessey syndrome. Possibly caused by coaching - she's gone from a sub-4 1500m to 4:13+ in only two years.

Actually, she's gone from non-medalist to World Champion in 4 years. I think if I was her, I'd be quite pleased with I've accomplished with "bad" coaching.

LOL at most of what is here.[/quote][/quote]

The point was that she is too physically good to have to make a mad sprint in the last 150 to qualify by .05. She needs to run much smarter in the semis.

Still laughing, coach.

Coach D wrote:

alanson wrote:

Vessey syndrome. Possibly caused by coaching - she's gone from a sub-4 1500m to 4:13+ in only two years.

Actually, she's gone from non-medalist to World Champion in 4 years. I think if I was her, I'd be quite pleased with I've accomplished with "bad" coaching.

LOL at most of what is here.

Here are Simpson's PRs in the 1500 in the last four years:

2012 4:05.17

2011 4:03.54

2010 4:03.63

2009 3:59.90

As spent as she was in the last 150 meters, she was still within two seconds of her season best. I dearly hope she seeks another coach.

Yes.

Over training.