Ron Mann - Louisville

Jesse and Caleb-

The running community of Louisville is tired of seeing your poorly spelled posts on this site. I would advise you to stop posting on here or you will competely lose what little credibility you have around here. We all liked Gene, but Gene is gone and Mann is the coach. Louisville was and is nothing on the collegiate running scene. Jurich has brought in this coach with a proven record to attempt greatness in yet another U of L sport.

Some of the things you all have said on this site could be treated as slander. You all need to stop, you are not accomplishing anything. Next time I see the two of you in public, you will know who I am, and if any part of our conversation shows up on this message board or any other board, I will not take the issue lightly.

For starters, who I am is unimportant in this argument. I am simply someone looking at the piss poor job that Ron Mann is doing. I hesitate to use the term Coach Mann, because what he has done here is anything but coach. He is destroying the program and I hope that outsiders realize this so that it is on him and not the University. In a couple years he will retire and act as if you can't be good here. Then retire NOW and stop stealing a paycheck.

Obviously a group of pathetic disgruntled NAU Athletes. He spent years building the program at NAU- let the guy move on- hes a professional- grow up and train you loser(s)

Ruth,

Do you still run?Back in the day I was in your corner when you use to race Mary Decker Slaney.I didn't know Coach Mann was your coach.It's nice to hear from one of the great one's on this message board.

All the best!

Michael Jesse. You are a jackass. You think everyone needs to bow before you because you are just so talented. You thought you were too good for Cumberland College and transfered to Louisville. Then you threw a little hissy fit during a workout because you couldn't take a little joke by one of the coaches. Let this thread die Jesse, we are tired of reading your bullshit on letsrun.com

If who you are is so unimportant then your opinion on this subject is unimportant.

Most of the athletes on the U of L Cross Country team are NOT D1 caliber athletes going forward in the Big East. Conf USA is not good and they could hang there, but changes need to be made. Those guys on the team are going to be driven away. Either stay there and not run for the team or transfer to someplace they can. Stop whining about leaving.. Maybe he is driving gys away, but if he wanted them to stay they would.. Think about it.

"...Most of the athletes on the U of L Cross Country team are NOT D1 caliber athletes going forward in the Big East..."

Oh ye of little faith...

UofL was 10th(of 29) in the Southeast Region. I'd say that's D1 caliber (Beat EKU, WKU, UK, App. State). They won't win the Big East, but they'll place midpack in the NEW Big East. The two foreign imports, Seacat, and Kaiser are 4 guys who will compete very well in the Big East. That's MOST of their team right there.

I really don't see why we're even talking about the distance runners. It's the SPRINTERS who are most of the guys who left.

wku, eku and app state are D1-AA schools. U of L is a D1-A, school, they should be ahead of D1-AA schools

NCAA D-1 AA is a football designation and has nothing to do with Track and Field.

agree

Aaron Smith-

Your previous posts give you away. The team you list in Secat, Kaiser, and two foriegn athletes will finish mid-pack in the big east. These athletes are not the frivilous few who are raising a stink on this board. Beating teams like EKU, WKU, UK and App State is no great feat, these teams suck, just like the teams in the weak Conf. USA.

Ha, you know very little. I am not Aaron Smith. Is midpack in the Big East such a bad thing? Is top third in the Southeast Region such a bad thing? Will they go to nationals? No, at least right away. They will however go to nationals within the next 4 years simply because kids will be drawn to Mann's name and past successes.

I did not say it was a bad thing, just stated they would finish mid pack. I agree they will make nationals, eventually, especially if Mann can continue to attract Foot Locker finalists to the team. BUT, finishing in the top third of a crap region is not something to be proud of, but that will change very quicky as the guys adapt to Mann's training philosophy.

BTW, I still think you are Aaron Smith.

I've been following these threads out of a morbid curiosity. I've been to the Kentucky Derby twice. That is the extent of my experience or interest in Louisville. But enough is enough.

OK Louisville folks, here are the cold, hard facts. Nobody outside of Louisville thinks Louisville track is any good- or even gives a crap about Louisville track and field. Therefore, like it or not, none of you have any credibility here. Ron Mann, on the other hand, does have credibility outside of Louisville. Like it or not, he is well respected in this sport. So what we have is a respected coach going into a crap program to change the culture and create a winning team. Always a tall order. In such cases (and this is a common story in the world of sport), current athletes either get on board and move forward with the new coach, or dig in their heels and fight the changes, bad-mouthing the new coach and his system in a pathetic effort to save themselves. It happens every single time there is a coaching regime change. Do you here me guys? Every single time. You're not special. Now you disgruntled athletes/alums/local Louisville fans may be right about a lot of your complaints, but because you've been so non-existant outside of Louisville, you have no credible voice against your new credible coach. I know that sucks, but that the reality of your situation.

This has become an ugly Jerry Springer episode. I would encourage all of you to salvage what's left of your dignity and character and stop posting on the LetsRun.

If you don't care, then stop looking at the thread. Last time I checked, the threads on this board did not have to indulge a national audience. Considering we are all working in the confines of an anonymous board YOU do not know who is putting in their two cents on this subject. There are people in Louisville that are fairly big hitters in the national running scene.

I am overly supportive of Coach Mann, I think great things are to come. The disgruntled few former athletes of Mann here in Louisville that keep digging up these threads should give up and accept the fact they have no place running for a soon to be legit DI school.

Believe me, it is an old subject around this community, we are looking to the future of Coach Mann's Cardinals

First of all- Louisville sucks- and they have always sucked. Good for the AD to bring in someone like Mann. If the attitudes of the remaining group are anything like the pathetic losers venting on this message board- then hopefully theyll quit or get kicked off in the name of progress. I know one person on the staff- the Guy is incredibly positive- and is really positive about the long term picture there. Obviously they have to clean a little more house down there. Good Luck- Louisville support the schools efforts to make Louisville a class program-

By the end of next track season Korir will be under 14:00(14:15 current) and Kaiser will be under 30:00(30:40 current).

Questions:

1. Is Seacat hurt or just running like crap?

2. Where's Sheikh? Redshirting?

3. Aside from Kaiser and Korir the distance crew seems spotty right now. Redshirts? Hurst? Bowling? Davis? Where are the XC guys at?

seacat has not looked good this track season. 4:11 for 1500 at weekend