I always thought about: what if you just gave it to the person who is going at a greater velocity at the finish.
I always thought about: what if you just gave it to the person who is going at a greater velocity at the finish.
Should be whoever had any part of their body cross the line first as the winner. Always should be that way. Notice those 1500 meter runners all LEANING THEIR SHOULDERS OVER THE LINE, for some reason that is allowed but their feet must remain behind the line?? Say wha????? Why are shoulders to important at the finish if apparently they aren't at start!
Brojos wrote:
Raptured wrote:Hey Brojos, please comment on this... Curious to know what's going on...
Reaction time is the official tie-breaker.
Based on reaction time, the person with the slower reaction time actually covered the 100 meters in less time, therefore is the faster runner.
This is amazing. A website visitor, possible troll, knows more than everyone in the media tent.
The power of the Internet!!!
I just walked up to Dan O'brien and was like 'What do they do now?' and he was like 'What are you talking about?'
We just talked to someone who says that the USATF rulebook says you draw lots. Seriously. Someone look it up and post it.
If they do draw lots, they need to do this in the middle of Hayward field.
Actually, a coin toss - best two of three - might be better.
Maybe the classy thing would be for Felix to bow out as a runoff won't be good for her.
Broheim wrote:
It was clear from the camera angle that Tarmoh won, by a hair.
You must have a different camera angle than NBC.
Tarmoh is about to get SCREWED big time.
Standing start and block start is the main difference there buddy. Apparently you don't know much about the sport or are a distance runner.
In case you didn't realize this, on the track (but not the roads) the money is in the sprints. Not the distance races so learn a little about the shorter side of the sport.
Block starts offer an advantage in building speed. The idea is the part of the body that is touching the track should be behind the line, but the torso in all events matters at the finish.
The rules are very consistent and simple for all events.
they have to resolve pic more
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trouble is, if they take it to Solomon, it's never gone beyond today's result's
today or never
they will give it to non-felix
cmon dude wrote:
Based on reaction time, the person with the slower reaction time actually covered the 100 meters in less time, therefore is the faster runner.
Incorrect. They covered it in the same time, thus the controversy.
Broheim wrote:
Standing start and block start is the main difference there buddy. Apparently you don't know much about the sport or are a distance runner.
In case you didn't realize this, on the track (but not the roads) the money is in the sprints. Not the distance races so learn a little about the shorter side of the sport.
Block starts offer an advantage in building speed. The idea is the part of the body that is touching the track should be behind the line, but the torso in all events matters at the finish.
The rules are very consistent and simple for all events.
i dont see how these 4 paragraphs are connected
Iaaf breaks ties with a draw:
RULE 167
Ties
1. If the Judges or the Photo Finish Judges are unable to separate the athletes for any place according to Rules 164.2, 165.15, 165.21 or 165.24 (as may be applicable), the tie shall remain.
2. In determining whether there has been a tie between athletes in different heats for a ranking position according to Rule 166.3(a) or for a qualifying position for a subsequent round based on time, the Chief Photo Finish Judge shall consider the actual times recorded by the athletes to 1/1000th of a second. If it is thus (or according to 167.1) determined that there has been a tie for a ranking position the tie shall be broken by draw. Where there is a tie for a qualifying position for a subsequent round based on time or place, the tying athletes shall be placed in the next round or, if that is not practicable, lots shall be drawn to determine who shall be placed in the next round.
Let Jennifer go. Allyson will be on the relay anyway, and she has that 200 thing to do. What's she gonna do, leave her training partner out of the Games after a tie?
@flotrack They haven't ruled a run off out. No rule in place for this kind of event.
@dinomoriarti The IAAF has a rule, why not simply revert to that. It's to "draw lots" by the way.
USATF rule book:
Bill Nye (Science Guy) wrote:
cmon dude wrote:Based on reaction time, the person with the slower reaction time actually covered the 100 meters in less time, therefore is the faster runner.
Incorrect. They covered it in the same time, thus the controversy.
You are correct in that their times were the same. However, since one of them left the starting line sooner, the other one actually covered the distance in less time.
Like most people in these forums, let me go to extremes to try to explain this to you: Let's say you and I were to race in a mile. Your reaction time is .1 seconds and my reaction time is one minute. We both cross the line in 5:00.000. Who actually covered the mile in less time? I did. If you were to select a runner based on that race, who would you pick? Obviously me, and then you would get me to work on my reaction time.
Considering the two women are teammates, and Felix has been to the Olympics twice and she must know in the back her mind that her chances in the 100 are slim, I believe Felix will not compete in the 100 in the Olympics. She has always proven herself to be a classy competitor, and I see that trend continuing.
cmon dude wrote:
[quote]Bill Nye (Science Guy) wrote:
[quote]cmon dude wrote:
Based on reaction time, the person with the slower reaction time actually covered the 100 meters in less time, therefore is the faster runner.[quote]
Incorrect. They covered it in the same time, thus the controversy.[quote]
You are correct in that their times were the same. However, since one of them left the starting line sooner, the other one actually covered the distance in less time.
Like most people in these forums, let me go to extremes to try to explain this to you: Let's say you and I were to race in a mile. Your reaction time is .1 seconds and my reaction time is one minute. We both cross the line in 5:00.000. Who actually covered the mile in less time? I did. If you were to select a runner based on that race, who would you pick? Obviously me, and then you would get me to work on my reaction time.
Reaction is hard to teach. I'd select the other guy and work on his turnover.
that's just dumb, reaction time is part of the race
some athletes are just terrible at getting out of the blocks and no amount of training will make them better at it. Who's to say that it'll be easier to get you to drop a hundredth off your reaction time than to tighten up my form a little and drop a hundredth off my running time?
We all know that beautiful people get their way in life. Felix gets third!!
Except that in sprints, reaction time is, proportionately to distance races, a much more important skill to have to finish well.
I get your point, but I think the only fair way to separate the tie (if it truly is a tie) is to do a coin flip.
So......
How is this going to effect my prediction contest scoring?