Wouldn't it be funny if he went to the Olympics with the hbby-jogger's mantra "I just want to finish the race, you know, go all the way without any walking breaks..."
Wouldn't it be funny if he went to the Olympics with the hbby-jogger's mantra "I just want to finish the race, you know, go all the way without any walking breaks..."
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
anonomie me wrote:If you have plantar fascia this close to the Games, odds are it is not going to be fixed by then, nor your training what it needs to be...
Hall 2:04
Ritz 2:09
Is there anything else I need to tell you.
Hall could do nothing but take his dog for a walk every day this month and still beat Ritz in London.
except hall's 2:04 was hurricaine aided and downhill so it doesn't count
quality will be here wrote:
Same situation with Shalane right now.
You are obviously someone fairly close to Jerry's camp. I think that it is more than a little rude for you to out Shalane like this. I am sure that if she wanted it delivered to the public that she would have done it herself.
Fine, 2:06 then.
Not one of you would ever give up your spot in the Olympics so why are you asking Hall to? It is easy when you are going to be sitting home watching the race in your house and eating cheetos to tell others what to do. Ritz wanted to go to the Olympics he should have ran faster. I will tell you right now a not fit, injured Ryan Hall is going to beat Abdi in August.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
Hall 2:04
Ritz 2:09
Is there anything else I need to tell you.
Hall could do nothing but take his dog for a walk every day this month and still beat Ritz in London.
It would be no different than 2008 when Hall beat Ritz in Beij...wait, what?
Then I think that is more than a little rude for Shalane to enter the 10,000 meter championship next week.
anonomie me wrote:
If you have plantar fascia this close to the Games, odds are it is not going to be fixed by then, nor your training what it needs to be...
Plantar fascia is connective tissue. You're supposed to have plantar fascia. It would be a much bigger concern if he didn't.
I have fascia, too wrote:
[quote]anonomie me wrote:
If you have plantar fascia this close to the Games, odds are it is not going to be fixed by then, nor your training what it needs to be...[quote]
Plantar fascia is connective tissue. You're supposed to have plantar fascia. It would be a much bigger concern if he didn't.
Damn. I wanted to be the one to call the op an idiot. Too slow.
The obvious answer from my perspective is "NO, Hall should not give his spot to Ritz."
Why? Because I do not want to see Ritz waste his time with the marathon any more. It was a long experiment that just did not pan out. Leave it for later. Right now he is having tremendous success on the track. That is where he should be!
If Hall wants to relinquish the spot, that's his business, but I sincerely hope if he does Ritz does NOT take it.
Hey, remember that time Ritz and Hall both ran in the Olympics in 2012? Yeah, that was cool.
Second wrote:
I have fascia, too wrote:[quote]anonomie me wrote:
If you have plantar fascia this close to the Games, odds are it is not going to be fixed by then, nor your training what it needs to be...[quote]
Plantar fascia is connective tissue. You're supposed to have plantar fascia. It would be a much bigger concern if he didn't.
Damn. I wanted to be the one to call the op an idiot. Too slow.
Then you are both a couple of losers. Everyone else figured it out by context.
You two musta taken the little bus to school.
quality will be here wrote:
Same situation with Shalane right now.
DM Assistant wrote:
You are obviously someone fairly close to Jerry's camp. I think that it is more than a little rude for you to out Shalane like this. I am sure that if she wanted it delivered to the public that she would have done it herself.
So you're confirming it in your message to shush this dude.
Well, THAT'S ironic.
rupp-certified saladbar wrote:
Hall 2:04
Ritz 2:09
Is there anything else I need to tell you.
Hall could do nothing but take his dog for a walk every day this month and still beat Ritz in London.
Frank Reynolds wrote:
It would be no different than 2008 when Hall beat Ritz in Beij...wait, what?
Guess who has improved by more in the meantime?
The guy who got third in Boston, only behind two of the best marathoners in the history of the planet?
Or the guy who took a whole five seconds off his time in three years while training under the world's most underperforming marathon coach?
Hall could spend the next month living in a Volkswagen bug and hitting his plantar fascia with a stick, and still beat any marathoner who has spent a day with Alberto Salazar.
Concerned Citizen wrote:
Hall was top three in the trials. If Ritz wanted to go he could have run a little faster.
I'm surprised to read such logic here. Racing with the same injury Hall handed Ritz's ass to him at the trials. Regardless of who anyone thinks gives the US the best medal shot, the USOC has established their selection criterion. On a level playing field Hall met it and Ritz didn't.
Yes, however the olympics is all about your country and putting your country first. Remember there is no chance to run the olympics if it weren't for the United States. Hall should realize this there's a better chance for Ritz at medalling than himself injured. He shouldn't be so selfish and take the spot for personal accolades. That is not the spirit of the Olympics.
A Duck wrote:
Then you are both a couple of losers. Everyone else figured it out by context.
You two musta taken the little bus to school.
Yes, I know what he meant. Just like I know what people mean when they say "statue of limitations" or "for all intensive purposes."
Ritz has made it pretty clear that he is completely focused on track, and I'm not sure there's enough time to prepare for the marathon at this point, unless he's been keeping his long threshold runs going. He still needs the standard in the 10,000, which I think he will get, but he has the 5,000 standard in any event if he makes that team. While doubling the 10,000 and marathon at the games is feasible because of the break between, there's very little time to prep.
Hall is not a 2:04 or even 2:06 runner anymore. He's a consistent 2:08-2:09 guy on a certified course, who has many miles on the legs. Not much difference between he and Ritz, and Ritz beat him in Beijing. If Ritz would ever learn to negative split a marathon, he'd probably be a 2:07 guy by now and likely would've won the trials. But, I'm sure he's sick of running it and underachieving.
Ryan Hall earned a place on the Olympic Marathon Team by finishing in the top three at the Olympic trials in Houston. He has earned the right to make the decision whether he can or cannot participate in London. I don't know what the right decision is. But I hope he makes the right decision, and I have every confidence that he will make the right decision.
A Duck wrote:
[quote]Second wrote:
[quote]I have fascia, too wrote:
[quote]anonomie me wrote:
If you have plantar fascia this close to the Games, odds are it is not going to be fixed by then, nor your training what it needs to be...[quote]
Plantar fascia is connective tissue. You're supposed to have plantar fascia. It would be a much bigger concern if he didn't.[quote]
Damn. I wanted to be the one to call the op an idiot. Too slow.[quote]
Then you are both a couple of losers. Everyone else figured it out by context.
You two musta taken the little bus to school.
I don't believe this is a case of a typo, but rather that the op doesn't know the difference between a plantar fascia and a case of plantar fasciitis. I'm betting he's never experienced the latter and doesn't know that it can be run through if one is willing to risk longer term damage and an extended down time after the big meet. I'm betting Ryan is willing.
HC wrote:
Concerned Citizen wrote:Hall was top three in the trials. If Ritz wanted to go he could have run a little faster.
I'm surprised to read such logic here. Racing with the same injury Hall handed Ritz's ass to him at the trials. Regardless of who anyone thinks gives the US the best medal shot, the USOC has established their selection criterion. On a level playing field Hall met it and Ritz didn't.
Absolutely right! The beauty of the US Olympic Trials is that the criteria is completely objective. There's no subjectivity, and ultimately, the athletes have only themselves to blame or applaud if they fail or make the team. There's no debate like the Kenyan marathon or 10km teams, and there certainly isn't any complaints from the athletes that it just wasn't fair. It's completely fair, and it allows one time nobodies (who the hell was Andrew Wheating before the 2008 trials) to become rock stars. You can hate on Hall's religion, or Ritz's choice of marathon coaches, but they both took the hands they were dealt, toed the line in Houston, and decided it on the race course. It's Hall's right to line up in London. He earned it, even if he's going to hobble. Is anyone here claiming Ritz should have given up his 04 10k spot (even though he jogged the trials and clearly wasn't fit)? Let the man do work and let him be judged by his performance, not a bunch of anonymous message board posters.