Could any decent runner beat Jerry Rice up "The Hill"?

Based on that description it looks like this guy did "The Hill", which does not have a full strava segment, but he did it in under 12 minutes, and it is only 1.4 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/97618120/overview

There is a strava segment "49er Hill, According to Roger" but it does not follow the description in the above link. It is 1.7 miles with a strava record of 13 minutes.

https://www.strava.com/segments/7551988?filter=overall

My bad. Found it. 1.4 miles. 10 minute record.

https://www.strava.com/segments/6107688

Hillness wrote:

Where is the hill? Someone in the area can just go try it and find out.

Someone find this hill and make a strava segment out of it, then I will race it in under 16 minutes.

I'll set that Strava FKT!!

Signed,

Jim Walmsley

team Unruly Bush wrote:

Based on that description it looks like this guy did "The Hill", which does not have a full strava segment, but he did it in under 12 minutes, and it is only 1.4 miles.

https://www.strava.com/activities/97618120/overview

There is a strava segment "49er Hill, According to Roger" but it does not follow the description in the above link. It is 1.7 miles with a strava record of 13 minutes.

https://www.strava.com/segments/7551988?filter=overall

How do we know these are right? I don't want to race it for nothing.

Miles Larue wrote:

espn was making a big deal that a rookie receiver will be training where Jerry Rice ran his hill repeats, and Jerry was on bragging about how tough it is and how most people couldn't handle it. It's about 2.5 miles and he says his best time is just under 16 minutes. It doesn't seem too impressive from a runner's perspective, but the NFL media loves making a big deal out of it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftmVLvQyZAs

When I was in HS, the runners who had no access to hills did just as well on hilly race courses as those who could do hill training. I don't believe training on hills make you race any faster on hills, so racing Jerry Rice up his hill wouldn't be any different than racing him on a flat course.

I pulled up that Strava segment, and to my surprise, I've run it before unknowingly on a long run in Edgewood. That doesn't sound right if it's that "hard" to follow.

Surprise! wrote:

[quote]ryan foreman wrote:

He was a sprinter who worked on conditioning more than his peers. In no way does that make him an elite middle distance runner no matter what training he did.

Probably his conditioning helped him remain in the NFL for longer. Certainly it kept him from wearing down his fast twitch muscle fibers with constant weight lifting and sprinting, as I think happens a lot.

Any decent runner.

Also Kate Bush.

Catoctin Creek wrote:

Any decent runner.

Also Kate Bush.

Well done

Mikeh33 wrote:

Surprise! wrote:

[quote]ryan foreman wrote:

He was a sprinter who worked on conditioning more than his peers. In no way does that make him an elite middle distance runner no matter what training he did.

Probably his conditioning helped him remain in the NFL for longer. Certainly it kept him from wearing down his fast twitch muscle fibers with constant weight lifting and sprinting, as I think happens a lot.

What fast twitch fibers? 4.71 40 yard dash. Since Jerry Rice was so fit, he was relatively faster in the fourth quarter of NFL games. I could find 50 current or former NFL DE's, TE's, QB's & LB's with superior 40 yard dash speed. I could find a couple hundred WR's faster than Jerry Rice.

Roger Craig was also fit back in the day and he would run a 7 mile loop regularly in the offseason--he and Rice often ran the "Hill" together-they were very fit for fast-twitch NFL guys, but would be considered maybe average runners according to their times-but running 10 milers at 7:30 pace is pretty impressive for a guy that is 6 foot and 220 lbs in his playing days...I believe that Craig ran a bunch of marathons once he retired..

fast twitch, What? wrote:

Mikeh33 wrote:

Probably his conditioning helped him remain in the NFL for longer. Certainly it kept him from wearing down his fast twitch muscle fibers with constant weight lifting and sprinting, as I think happens a lot.

What fast twitch fibers? 4.71 40 yard dash. Since Jerry Rice was so fit, he was relatively faster in the fourth quarter of NFL games. I could find 50 current or former NFL DE's, TE's, QB's & LB's with superior 40 yard dash speed. I could find a couple hundred WR's faster than Jerry Rice.

Jerry was faster than 4.71 in the 40

nope wrote:

fast twitch, What? wrote:

What fast twitch fibers? 4.71 40 yard dash. Since Jerry Rice was so fit, he was relatively faster in the fourth quarter of NFL games. I could find 50 current or former NFL DE's, TE's, QB's & LB's with superior 40 yard dash speed. I could find a couple hundred WR's faster than Jerry Rice.

Jerry was faster than 4.71 in the 40

Review Barry Scheck & John Grisham and Innocence Project. We see with our brain. Our brain is filled with emotional biases. You thought Jerry Rice was a fast sprinter.

Nope again..... people so lazy now days they can't even click on a link once they google

After a record-setting career at MississippiValleyState, Jerry Rice did what every draft prospect has done for eons: He worked out for NFL scouts on campus and at the scouting combine, a one-stop-shopping event in February that’s used to evaluate the top prospects.

“We timed Jerry in the 40 nine times,” said former Dallas Cowboys general manager Gil Brandt, “and he never got under 4.55.”

"Jerry Rice timed in 4.59 and was considered to have marginal speed for a starting NFL wide receiver by virtually everyone in the NFL. There were three or four teams -- including the Jets and the Cowboys along with the 49ers -- who rated him very highly. Other than that, I'm not sure anybody did, simply because of a 4.59 time."

- Bill Walsh

Nope wrote:

Nope again.....

people so lazy now days they can't even click on a link once they google

After a record-setting career at MississippiValleyState, Jerry Rice did what every draft prospect has done for eons: He worked out for NFL scouts on campus and at the scouting combine, a one-stop-shopping event in February that’s used to evaluate the top prospects.

“We timed Jerry in the 40 nine times,” said former Dallas Cowboys general manager Gil Brandt, “and he never got under 4.55.”

"Jerry Rice timed in 4.59 and was considered to have marginal speed for a starting NFL wide receiver by virtually everyone in the NFL. There were three or four teams -- including the Jets and the Cowboys along with the 49ers -- who rated him very highly. Other than that, I'm not sure anybody did, simply because of a 4.59 time."

- Bill Walsh

There is a reason why when you type Jerry Rice, 4.71 40 yard dash comes up on Google on page one. If Jerry Rice ever had 4.5+ 40 yard speed, he would have run fly routes as do all 4.5+ 40 yard dash wide receivers. A fly route is when a receiver races straight down field along the sideline. Jerry Rice rarely ran fly routes. Rice rarely ran fly routes because he was too slow! The fact that you had to go through a half a dozen Google pages to find someone giving Rice false praise tells you those NFL guys are blowing smoke. Before the Chiefs-Patriots game, Coach Reid will probably say, "Tom Brady can throw a football 80 yards, bench press 550 pounds and run a 4.4 40 yard dash." That's how NFL guys talk.

My choice is to believe multiple NFL GMs on the record giving very exact times or some random dude on the internet with a theory about fly routes.

Nope.

A GM saying Jerry Rice could run 'a 4.5' could be just speculation.....but saying 4.59 is kind of precise. And there are multiple GMs on record saying the same thing.

And your fly route theory is BS . 4.55 is slightly below average speed for a WR in the NFL.

Rice was so slow he averaged 20.4 yards a reception in 1988.

Nope wrote:

My choice is to believe multiple NFL GMs on the record giving very exact times or some random dude on the internet with a theory about fly routes.

Nope.

A GM saying Jerry Rice could run 'a 4.5' could be just speculation.....but saying 4.59 is kind of precise. And there are multiple GMs on record saying the same thing.

And your fly route theory is BS . 4.55 is slightly below average speed for a WR in the NFL.

Post a video of Jerry Rice sprinting a sub-4.60 40 yard dash. Stop digging up quotes. NFL executives engage in reverse bulletin board quotes. Quotes are meaningless. Show the video!