nick symmonds 1:44 flat 800m split

Wsl wrote:

Generous Penn Relays 800m split...

Penn Relays is the only meet that has a system for and records official splits. There is a method to how Penn gets its splits and for over 100 years people have been accepting them as correct, therefore if they say he ran 1:43.9x, then he did. Btw, most people usually come with faster splits than what Penn records.

Yeah, I was there and me and the guy beside me got 1:43.7 splits on him. And he took it out in 49 for the first 400. Not his usual sit and kick method and still ran smooth through the last 200. Good on him!

It was one of his most impressive efforts. I've never seen him run that hard from the gun, and still look controlled at the end. Good work.

What were the nike spikes that symmonds was wearing?

1'43.9 solo flying leg

the flying start & lack of drafting compared to an open 800 shoud probably cancel each other out

so he's currently worth 1'43.9 in an open 800

also, 49+ is perhaps too quick an opening ( albeit flying part in that )

possibly 1'43.7 in an ideal race going out in mid-50

he's aiming to peak for trials, so i'd possibly knock something off that

he's gotta be looking towards 1'43-flat this year & even the magical 1'42+...

Best solo effort, time trial was Rudisha's 1:41:09 WR...

Is there any video footage of his entire leg? The link video just shows highlights. This only has his first 50m, his mid 50 and his last 50!

BountyHunter wrote:

And for the second year in a row it will take a sub-1.44 time to win the U.S. Championships in the men's 800.

Back in the day (1992) it took sub 1:43.00 to win the US Championship.

Interesting role reversal for Symmonds and KD, with Nick going out hard and KD falling back to come on a bit at the end. Could we be seeing a new trick for old dog Symmonds?

Symmonds has raced in big races like this before. Take a look at the 2009 world championship 800 final...

http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DPRjRMxtptjI&v=PRjRMxtptjI&gl=US

I'm not that impressed. Flying start is worth at least half a second, plus not nearly as much crowding. 1:44.9 open at BEST.

Wow, no one else thought of that. Must be why all of those collegiate guys with 1:44-45 PR's were running 1:48-49 splits this weekend.

fdsafsafsdfd wrote:

I'm not that impressed. Flying start is worth at least half a second, plus not nearly as much crowding. 1:44.9 open at BEST.

He was wearing the new Zoom Victory Elite. They are not available to the public yet.

ventolin^3 wrote:

1'43.9 solo flying leg

the flying start & lack of drafting compared to an open 800 shoud probably cancel each other out

so he's currently worth 1'43.9 in an open 800

also, 49+ is perhaps too quick an opening ( albeit flying part in that )

possibly 1'43.7 in an ideal race going out in mid-50

he's aiming to peak for trials, so i'd possibly knock something off that

he's gotta be looking towards 1'43-flat this year & even the magical 1'42+...

right on all counts. it is a no brainer to see a peak symmonds go 142 high or 143 low given a 144 flat equivalent opener. given continuing good health, the only problem for nick is getting in the right race. with rush-d trying to go 140, that pace will be too fast...

nick will need to be provided with a 50.0 opener and someone to keep the pace up to 600m - in good conditions that will bring the 142.

this is a theory i've promulgated for a while

a lot of the mid/high- 1'43 guys i believe are actual 1'42 ones, but they don't have a dedicated wabbit taking them out in ~ 50.5 to show it

the only wabbit is a mid-49 one for rudy & the others are commiting suicide trying to follow that - 50.0 is too fast for 1'43.0 guys

if the promoter accepts that the races are 2-tier & has 2 pacers, the 2nd in 50.5 can allow likes of nick/aman/newer kenyans to follow that with 2s differential for 52.5 ->

1'43.0

this is really a no brainer, but it woud cost a $coupla k for it to happen

,rjingleheimersmith wrote:

wow, he's back what a run by symmonds in the penn relays dmr

He's back? Don't really think he went anywhere, sped.

Wow.

Symmonds is da man