Why do cyclists wear tight shorts with padding even on training rides? Why not just wear baggy shorts when training &

TLW wrote:

Also, I should mention I have never experienced the total rage and aggressiveness of other human beings until I started cycling.

Motorists rage, and I mean RAGE, when they have to pass a cyclist. I only cycled for a year and stopped because of it.

Looking like a neon billboard is better than death.

I think the rage comes from many cyclists being dicks when it comes to rules of the road. Out here in Sonoma/Marin county we have a ton of people riding... Me included. Problem is many of them want to have it both ways, being treated as both vehicle or pedestrian whenever it suits them. Things like:

- not stopping at stop sign.

- biking through intersection on "walk" sign

- failing to keep right

We've got lots of folks out here with more money than brains.

Not defending them but it a lot different for a car to stop at an intersection than a bike.

Unlogged Uncle Pervy wrote:

TLW wrote:

Also, I should mention I have never experienced the total rage and aggressiveness of other human beings until I started cycling.

Motorists rage, and I mean RAGE, when they have to pass a cyclist. I only cycled for a year and stopped because of it.

Looking like a neon billboard is better than death.

I think the rage comes from many cyclists being dicks when it comes to rules of the road. Out here in Sonoma/Marin county we have a ton of people riding... Me included. Problem is many of them want to have it both ways, being treated as both vehicle or pedestrian whenever it suits them. Things like:

- not stopping at stop sign.

- biking through intersection on "walk" sign

- failing to keep right

We've got lots of folks out here with more money than brains.

How good do you have to be to wear a bike jersey and/or bike suit with all these advertisements and logos on it and not look like a dbag poser?

has been who never was wrote:

Still doesn't explain why each and every one of them dresses like they're sponsored when none of them (or very few) are. The day-glo cannondale shirts, the dumb tights with neon letters. 5K$ worth of equipment so they can take 4 hours to ride 40 miles. Seriously? Always love throwing on a cotton T, running shoes, stepping into my 80s toe clips and keeping up with the dorks who think they are something special, which in my experience seeems to be about 80% of the people on the road. Just seems like a different, less friendly culture than the running one I adore.

Clearly 1) you don't ride often enough

2) you have insignificant genitalia

Haha yo (super serial)9 wrote:

How good do you have to be to wear a bike jersey and/or bike suit with all these advertisements and logos on it and not look like a dbag poser?

Actually, that stuff is cheaper than the plan stuff and higher quality.

A good pair of bibs is $250. You can get similar quality of last years (sponsors) stuff for $60 - 70 a pair. Just smart to do.

On the other hand I can see you looking a little fragile.

Unlogged Uncle Pervy wrote:

TLW wrote:

Also, I should mention I have never experienced the total rage and aggressiveness of other human beings until I started cycling.

Motorists rage, and I mean RAGE, when they have to pass a cyclist. I only cycled for a year and stopped because of it.

Looking like a neon billboard is better than death.

I think the rage comes from many cyclists being dicks when it comes to rules of the road. Out here in Sonoma/Marin county we have a ton of people riding... Me included. Problem is many of them want to have it both ways, being treated as both vehicle or pedestrian whenever it suits them. Things like:

- not stopping at stop sign.

- biking through intersection on "walk" sign

- failing to keep right

We've got lots of folks out here with more money than brains.

And you have never seen a dickhead driver?

When it comes to breaking road rules, drivers are worse. Mainly because they drive a 2 ton vehicle that can far exceed the speed of a bicycle. They also break as many laws. More as there are way more of them doing it.

Yes there are few dbs on bikes, but the outcome of their stupidity usually falls on them.

Unlike car drivers who tend to take a number of innocents with them.

Do you realize how dumb you sound, and how dumb you must look if you actually do this? What you describe is basically like some douche running beside you for 30 seconds of your 20-miler and saying they can "keep up" with you.

[quote]bttr runner thn u, cyclist 1st wrote:

Damn you bikers are a touchy bunch, thus proving my point re: the general anti-social and arrogant nature of your ilk all the more (stereotype for sure, I know some cool cyclists). Also funny how you misinterpret my posts on this issue. By "keeping up" I did not mean I go out trolling for some unsponsored poser who dresses like he's sponsored and ride with him. I simply meant that the times I do ride (in my plain cotton shirt, Trek 1200 (circa 89), and toe clips) I am able to hold my own with them in terms of mph and difficulty of terrain without all the dumb gear. Doesn't really mean much one way or the other I suppose and I would undoubtedly get schooled by someone with a modicum of ability on a bike. But again, back to my original point, most people I come across who ride seem to care a lot more about how they look than how they ride. As you correctly point out, this is true with runners as well (although to a much smaller extent IMHO) and with people as as a whole in about all aspects of life.

I must also say I'm doubting your handle big time, especially the 1st part. I'm guessing the last 2 words of my handle are more appropriate for you sir.

Ha-Ha - Did you think this is were the thread would go? Sorry dude.

has been who never was wrote:

Still doesn't explain why each and every one of them dresses like they're sponsored when none of them (or very few) are. The day-glo cannondale shirts, the dumb tights with neon letters. 5K$ worth of equipment so they can take 4 hours to ride 40 miles. Seriously? Always love throwing on a cotton T, running shoes, stepping into my 80s toe clips and keeping up with the dorks who think they are something special, which in my experience seeems to be about 80% of the people on the road. Just seems like a different, less friendly culture than the running one I adore.

Randomly insulting people who aren't like him. Because he thinks the way they dress and act is stupid.

Claims to be a member of the "friendly" running culture.

HA

I don't understand. You can 'hold your own'? Did you comprehend what I wrote earlier about training?

That is like me jumping in with Rupp on his easy day, running with him, and saying I can hold my own against Rupp.

You jumping in on a group, who might be doing a 100 mile long ride on Sunday, is equivalent to a frat bro jumping in on your 20 mile Sunday long run for 10 minutes and saying he is as fast as you.

Cycling is more of a gear sport than running. You need the gear for safety and utility. Cyclists are not buying and wearing the stuff to try and look cool.

[quote]RPS wrote:

Not defending them but it a lot different for a car to stop at an intersection than a bike.

Well the damage can be greater if car doesnt stop... But for that guy on bike, not stopping could kill him.

And of course there are lots of DB drivers... But thatdoesnt negate the fact that guys on bikes tend to play fast and loose.... As i'm sure they do in a car.

I love our big lanes, but driving and biking on the rural roads out here scares me.