Er... wrote:
I still remember the good old days of the early 80s at Canadian nationals: doping control had all the beer you could drink until you produced your sample.
That's the bomb. But would alcohol in your system affect the drug test?
Er... wrote:
I still remember the good old days of the early 80s at Canadian nationals: doping control had all the beer you could drink until you produced your sample.
That's the bomb. But would alcohol in your system affect the drug test?
OK, answering my own question, under the WADA list, alcohol is not prohibited in competition except for a few sports, so I guess it doesn't affect drug tests.
http://www.usada.org/uploads/wada_prohibited_list_2012.pdf
P1. ALCOHOL
Alcohol (ethanol) is prohibited In-Competition only, in the following sports. Detection will be conducted by analysis of breath and/or blood. The doping violation threshold (haematological values) is 0.10 g/L.
• Aeronautic (FAI)
• Archery (FITA)
• Automobile (FIA)
• Karate (WKF)
• Motorcycling (FIM)
• Powerboating (UIM)
So at the Olympics, you can't have any drunken archery but it's okay to throw the javelin while drunk? ;)
xxxxxccc wrote:
Whether she should have been held in there or not is one debate, but the article states she sat in the room tired and hungry until providing a sample at 1:15am. It is certainly plausible that not eating for 3+hours after the race would impair preparation for the next day. Particularly if she was sick and dehydrated to begin with.
I agree with Katie Flood and her coach.
Any drug testing should have not been done until the last of her running events. Anything else is subject to chicanery, an easy to tamper with abusive procedure to affect athlete's performances.
Barring any leeway in the stupid procedures, there should have been plenty of drinks for her to choose from, including her favorites. I see no reason to have tea as the only option besides water. There should be a dark comfortable room available for each athlete to sleep or at least rest, while being retained for 3-4 hours against their will.
The best option is to get rid of the barbaric drug testing, as they have no purpose but promotion of drug companies and harassment of athletes.
Smoking a bowl always produces a nice horsepiss.
• Aeronautic (FAI)
• Archery (FITA)
• Automobile (FIA)
• Motorcycling (FIM)
• Powerboating (UIM)
The Mechanical Energy Graph says the above sports are not athletics.
J.R. wrote:
[clip] Any drug testing should have not been done until the last of her running events. Anything else is subject to chicanery, an easy to tamper with abusive procedure to affect athlete's performances. [clip]
Could you provide details of this "easy-to-tamper-with, abusive procedure" (my hyphens and comma) or, more particularly, what makes the procedure "easy to tamper with" and why it's "abusive"?
Can't be drunk for karate but you can box?
The Truff of da Matter wrote:
Not a fiasco - she needs to suck it up and pull on her big girl panties. sorry sweetie, drink up and take wiz for the testers or find another recreational activity.
Well, I guess she also needs to become a big girl, too:
Sanya Richards-Ross @SanyaRichiRoss Close
My blood testing experience just now ranks up there with my worst experiences ever!!!! #NotCool
Clean athletes DO have problems with testers, sometimes.
Really big surprise that someone from Seattle gets dehydrated at altitude. Of course, if she was running for Oregon, Big Daddy Nike would just take care of it, right?
JoeGarland wrote:
Could you provide details of this "easy-to-tamper-with, abusive procedure" (my hyphens and comma) or, more particularly, what makes the procedure "easy to tamper with" and why it's "abusive"?
YES!
Not understanding the dehydration thing at all. How could she have had no access to water for 3 hours?
since when is 2500 feet considered "altitude" ?
The flood has gone dry
Trollist wrote:
A Washington athlete who had a surprising rise through the NCAA ranks getting scared sh*tless by drug testing? I wish I could say I'm shocked.
Yea, it isn't like she won NXN or anything while in HS. What a shock that a tall, strong, healthy and talented runner would continue to improve throughout college after having a great HS career.
I was once a national champion (D3, naturally). Anyway, I've been drug tested 2 whole times in my life. It's something you have to deal with if you win. To use it as an excuse for a poor performance is weak. She should be happy because drug tests legitimize winners.
I totally agree with Great (In my own mind). Winning national championships is all about guts......period. Every top athlete goes through drug testing.
Complaining that you couldn't pee, you had distractions, you're overcoming the flu, etc....etc. and then having the Seattle Times report such nonsense is a sign of total weakness on part of the entire Washington program and all the coaches involved.
Katie Flood got spanked, and you all in the Northwest can't handle it. That's the bottom line excuse. How sad.
Greg Metcalf of the U of Wash. has a somewhat unique coaching strategy. He brings in a "factory herd of women" and just runs them to death.
That is, whoever survives, no matter what their health, (i.e. won't mention names here but obvious) they move on. Those that don't survive, no problem - bring on the next one. A semi-psycho college coaching running strategy, but it seems to work for him.
Way to go Greg! Maybe all coaches should follow your approach? What do you think coaches?
I Have an Axe to Grind wrote:
Greg Metcalf of the U of Wash. has a somewhat unique coaching strategy. He brings in a "factory herd of women" and just runs them to death.
That is, whoever survives, no matter what their health, (i.e. won't mention names here but obvious) they move on. Those that don't survive, no problem - bring on the next one. A semi-psycho college coaching running strategy, but it seems to work for him.
Way to go Greg! Maybe all coaches should follow your approach? What do you think coaches?
You're speaking from experience? As in, you ran for him and know this to be true? Serious question.
J.R. wrote:
Any drug testing should have not been done until the last of her running events. Anything else is subject to chicanery, an easy to tamper with abusive procedure to affect athlete's performances.
This is a stupid idea. For example, a doped athlete is enterred in the DMR and a subsequent event. Athlete runs the DMR, but is not tested because of the later event. Athlete scratches from later event, thereby avoiding the drug test.
Hedge Apple wrote:
What a terribly written article! What is going on in Journalism schools today?
I'm curious, what makes you say it's so terribly written? You must be a Pulitzer winner yourself.
And to the dipshit who said "at least it's unbiased" (sarcastically, I'm assuming), the author is a columnist. Not a news reporter.
The problem with journalism is that everyone reading it is getting more and more stupid.
coach d wrote:
Of course, if she was running for Oregon, Big Daddy Nike would just take care of it, right?
Actually, if you follow their twitter accounts, you'll notice that the Oregon athletes tend to get tested an awful lot. Not sure what their rates are relative to other teams, but almost all the big namers there both current and in the past couple years have mentioned being tested in their tweets.