Asabel Kiprop training!!!

haha YO wrote:

Do people suggest that for the 1500? I don't think so.

Marathon, volume is crucial. Drills for speed are secondary. What event you are training for is the most important piece of the puzzle. When someone says they are running 120 miles a week they aren't stupid if they are training for a marathon. If someone says they are running 50 miles a week they aren't stupid if they are doing drills, speedwork and training for the 800/1500.

I've argued the point (against the high mileage stuff) too many times to accept this. Right now, there is a thread on here arguing for 100mpw for 800 training, not to mention people who WON'T believe that Dr. Li has Lalang doing 50 mpw for XC.

But 1500m guys towing sleds/tires like 100m sprinters is something I hadn't seen before, and in our program we are going to discuss this. Things like this are the reason to put up with the obnoxious Oregon jerks and not leave permanently like it seems most coaches have.

Al Sal is probably the one recording. He and Rupp always seem to know what others are doing for some reason.

I have to question your abilities as a coach if you would see something on a video with no background, no information and then attempt to incorporate it into your training.

Coach D is one of those who pretends to be a leader but he follows the herd.

some of them sure aren't very good at jumping rope.

i would have thought they'd be quite a bit better at that if this is something they routinely do.

same thing for jumping over the hurdles. some of them had to stop and then do a one leg at a time thing.

maybe they were just noobs?

Opie Winfree wrote:

Coach D is one of those who pretends to be a leader but he follows the herd.

To be a head coach of a major Div I program, he sure spends a lot of time on LetsRun.

Looks to me like most of them have very little idea what they are doing. The session was probably designed without really understanding why you would do each exercise. hurdles were awful, running on the spot with the straps looked contrived and running with the tires just caused them to lean forward from the hips.

I'd reckon it was partly a show for the cameras.

not so impressed wrote:

Looks to me like most of them have very little idea what they are doing. The session was probably designed without really understanding why you would do each exercise. hurdles were awful, running on the spot with the straps looked contrived and running with the tires just caused them to lean forward from the hips.

I'd reckon it was partly a show for the cameras.

my first thoughts as well...

looked a bit too much 'for-show'.

the background of the training is kenyans and the information is Asbel Kiprop. I am buying a tire right now.

Coach D wrote:

People need to wake up as to where that speed comes from. It does not come from 100 mile weeks at 7+ minute pace.

Very interesting to see Kiprop and other Kenyans pulling sleds like sprinters.

Heh, there are not any sprinters that run with tires in this manner.

just my 2 cents... wrote:

To everyone wondering about why the Kenyans were staring at the guy drying off, the most logical reason would be because he took his SHIRT off in front of everybody.

In lots of cultures (especially more religious ones) it is considered highly improper to take your shirt off in front of people (and presumably moreso in front of women)...so that's my take on why he got the crazy stares.

That's at least been my experience in Mexico...no matter how hot it is outside, you NEVER take your shirt off.

In public, in Kenya, you're probably right. That's at the track though which is different. The train in short shorts and vests there (even the girls) whereas on the roads, they are almost always a lot more covered up.

they're staring cos he's soaking wet, white and wearing a heart rate monitor in my opinion.

Kilroy Was Here wrote:

No eccentricities - that's why they're good. No BS SUVs, boom boxes, synthetic supplements, big egos. Just pure and simple.

You do realize that there are many World Class athletes with "BS SUVs, boom boxes, synthetic supplements, big egos."

None of those things necessarily prevent you from being talented and driven.

mplatt wrote:

Kilroy Was Here wrote:

No eccentricities - that's why they're good. No BS SUVs, boom boxes, synthetic supplements, big egos. Just pure and simple.

You do realize that there are many World Class athletes with "BS SUVs, boom boxes, synthetic supplements, big egos."

None of those things necessarily prevent you from being talented and driven.

Come on, Mike, don't try to throw some logic into these discussions.

How fast you think Asbel could run a mile with the tire?

Who is Team BOSS ???

It's amazing how everyone has determined what they are and are not doing on a regular basis by looking at footage of one workout.

Team BOSS Baltic is running team based in Latvia. The CEO of company is scouting for talent in Kenya and bringing them to race in Europe. One of members is Asabel's brother Victor.

Isn't Kiprop widely known for having a messed up training plan with no real rhyme or reason to many of his workouts?

This looked ridiculous - many of the athletes had terrible form.

adsfasdfasdfasdf wrote:

Isn't Kiprop widely known for having a messed up training plan with no real rhyme or reason to many of his workouts?

This looked ridiculous - many of the athletes had terrible form.

there is so much wrong with this.

World jr xc gold, olympic 1500m gold, wc 1500m gold. And doing so off prs not much better than say Andrew Wheating. (1:43/3:30)

And there is something messed up about his training? What should he be doing instead?