When the heck is someone going to break the 1500m or mile WR...

Webb would have had a legit shot at 3:45 territory and from there who knows, if he was in supremem shape and everything clicked he might have gotten near el g's record but the several down years have got to have his focus on healthy 3:32 consistent shape. But one never knows with Webb. He was written off twice before and came back faster then ever and every athlete/coach that seems to work with him says he is the most talented runner they have ever worked with and I don't think that is just blowing smoke.

I have to agree thought that the possibility of a 3:42 and 3:25 will never get off clean and without just suspicion.

tonotoo wrote:

I posted in another thread how, although I am miler, I get more excited watching the marathon than the 1500m/mile. Ever since EL G retired, it has been quite boring. The maraton WR seems to be under constant threat. I gues El G's record are safe for the time being.

It's the theme of the thread but sadly it's close to the mark - if the IAAF and WADA remain committed to keeping PED's out of the sport then it is conceivable we might might be at the same stage as womens track world records where they will simply NEVER be broken.

People may point to Rudisha in the 800m but the 800m is a far more complex event in terms of energy systems where small incremental differences in pace judgement at different points of the race can end up resulting in a world record. It's similar in the hurdles where it is so technical that it works in a similar way. Perhaps we are also seeing some evidence that perhaps the 800 meters record has been held by clean athletes over the years and we are simply seeing a natural progression.

Realistically though the 1500/mile hasn't been as much as some people want to slurp El Guerrojou, the current crop of elite milers we have in the world are not short of talent or ambition but are really running on a different planet to what El G was and to a degree Lagat in his "halcyon" days (when he was caught for EPO). Noah Ngeny managed to run 3.28 hanging on to the back of the challenge and its once again conceivable that talents like Kiprop and Kpilagat could do the same given the same "pacemaking". But as for 3.26.00, well don't hold your breath on seeing that go down any time soon.

Solinsky has been beaten up by folks everywhere that I think he's itching to go. I would not be surprised if he breaks the 1500m WR next year in the Olympics. I'll guess 3:42.XX

The '90s saw world records go down left and right. There was no EPO test in the '90s. Coincidence? LOL, don't kid yourself. It was open season.

When German Fernandez is no longer injured. Or maybe Goucher takes it down. Hard to say really.

Simon Stitchup wrote:

It's the theme of the thread but sadly it's close to the mark - if the IAAF and WADA remain committed to keeping PED's out of the sport then it is conceivable we might might be at the same stage as womens track world records where they will simply NEVER be broken.

I won't say they will never be broken but there are an awful lot of stale field records on the books.

NEVER.

EG G WAS A GOD!!!!

FALL TO YOUR KNEES AND WORSHIP HIM!!!!

fd ;fdlk wrote:

Solinsky has been beaten up by folks everywhere that I think he's itching to go. I would not be surprised if he breaks the 1500m WR next year in the Olympics. I'll guess 3:42.XX

there are so many things wrong with what you've posted here

M.C. Confusing wrote:

When they have a new undetectable EPO replacement that is just as effective?

Then why do they run the maraton faster now than when El G was still racing?

simply because the talent has moved from the tracks to the roads. people no longer run marathons at the end of their (track) careers but at their peak. Notice how young the Kenyans are (even if they lie by a few years).

2:04-2:05 is more in line with 12:50-12:55 and 26:45.

idiot alert wrote:

Then why do they run the maraton faster now than when El G was still racing?

"When they have a new undetectable EPO replacement that is just as effective?"

fff wrote:

simply because the talent has moved from the tracks to the roads. people no longer run marathons at the end of their (track) careers but at their peak. Notice how young the Kenyans are (even if they lie by a few years).

2:04-2:05 is more in line with 12:50-12:55 and 26:45.

I don't completely agree with this. I think all Kenyans start at the track but in Kenya you're not worth anything on the track if you not sub 27:10 or 13:05. So these young guys have no choice but to move up, and it purely the depth of the talent in the country that pushes guys to the marathon at a younger age. I don't think anyone that is a pure 1500/mile runner is going to be lured to the marathon because of money, because again the depth in the marathon is too great.

The only runner that had the ability to dominate all distances at different points in his career was the Emperor. Typically a competitive miler will not also be competitive a marathon.

I'll have to throw my hat in with the posters who are saying Kaki and Rudisha are the ones with the chance right now.

Andrew Wheating will break it three years from now.