At least Ventolin gives reasons to back up his assertions, even if most people don't agree with him. Jesse just makes a statement with nothing to back it up, and says if you don't agree it's because you're a moron.
At least Ventolin gives reasons to back up his assertions, even if most people don't agree with him. Jesse just makes a statement with nothing to back it up, and says if you don't agree it's because you're a moron.
I'd like to point out that one of the fastest ever 10000m efforts ever was by Bekele in Portland of all places. Location doesn't matter nearly as much as conditions and pacing, which Solinsky clearly had at Stanford. Brussels isn't some magical runfast place.
Let me try on last time to educate some of the morons, and there are many of you.
1)Galen Rupp and Chris Solinsky are both better 10000m runners than 5000m runners.
2)Chris Solinsky ran 12:55 last year which Galen Rupp has not come close to, but I'll acknowledge he should be able to get near it.
3)Chris Solinsky's 12:55 might be slightly inferior to Galen Rupp's 26:48...BUT, since 10000m is their best distance, this only means that both of them are going to grade out higher at 10000m when they've run both to their potential.
4)Chris Solinsky could have run 26:48 last year. I knew the morons wouldn't grasp it. It doesn't really matter...
Galen Rupp is capable of 12:53 this year, which is faster than Solinksy's PR.
could have should have but did not so shaddup.
jesse was a friend wrote:
Let me try on last time to educate some of the morons, and there are many of you.
1)Galen Rupp and Chris Solinsky are both better 10000m runners than 5000m runners.
2)Chris Solinsky ran 12:55 last year which Galen Rupp has not come close to, but I'll acknowledge he should be able to get near it.
3)Chris Solinsky's 12:55 might be slightly inferior to Galen Rupp's 26:48...BUT, since 10000m is their best distance, this only means that both of them are going to grade out higher at 10000m when they've run both to their potential.
4)Chris Solinsky could have run 26:48 last year. I knew the morons wouldn't grasp it. It doesn't really matter...
I am sorry how many 10k's has Chris run internationally ? until Chris makes a World final or an olympic final in the 10K I call bullshit. 26:48 trumps Chris in every way.
Under Ultra wrote:
Galen Rupp is capable of 12:53 this year, which is faster than Solinksy's PR.
Well, you can't have it both ways, fanboy. Galen apparently is not able to run well when it really counts...
tGH PDX wrote:
jesse was a friend wrote:Let me try on last time to educate some of the morons, and there are many of you.
1)Galen Rupp and Chris Solinsky are both better 10000m runners than 5000m runners.
2)Chris Solinsky ran 12:55 last year which Galen Rupp has not come close to, but I'll acknowledge he should be able to get near it.
3)Chris Solinsky's 12:55 might be slightly inferior to Galen Rupp's 26:48...BUT, since 10000m is their best distance, this only means that both of them are going to grade out higher at 10000m when they've run both to their potential.
4)Chris Solinsky could have run 26:48 last year. I knew the morons wouldn't grasp it. It doesn't really matter...
I am sorry how many 10k's has Chris run internationally ? until Chris makes a World final or an olympic final in the 10K I call bullshit. 26:48 trumps Chris in every way.
I didn't even realize how stupid you people are. You make the U.S. team at 10000m, which Solinksy could have done even this year with ease, and you're in the final. Are you really that stupid?
jesse was a friend wrote:
Solinsky ran 12:55 when he could have run 26:48. This was after his 26:59, which was early in the season. Learn to think.
By the IAAF Scoring tables Solinsky's 12:55 and 26:59 are nearly identical performances. 26:48 compares with about 12:50.5. As outstanding as Solinsky's performances were last summer, it is speculative at best to conclude that he could have matched this performance by Rupp.
Fishing Instructor wrote:
jesse was a friend wrote:Solinsky ran 12:55 when he could have run 26:48. This was after his 26:59, which was early in the season. Learn to think.
By the IAAF Scoring tables Solinsky's 12:55 and 26:59 are nearly identical performances. 26:48 compares with about 12:50.5. As outstanding as Solinsky's performances were last summer, it is speculative at best to conclude that he could have matched this performance by Rupp.
No, I have PROVED that he could have last summer. Obviously Rupp was not capable of 26:48 IF you go by your lousy logic. Don't you understand? Solinsky's 12:55 was superior to his 26:59 BECAUSE that day he could have run 26:48 BECAUSE he is a better 10000m runner than 5000m runner. So is Rupp. I am DONE with you morons.
Jesse, not only are you a disgrace to the sport but Chris Solinsky himself would never want you as a fan.
Do you think Solinsky is sitting in his living room saying "I'm not worried, my 26:59 from over a year ago is way better than what Rupp just ran and everybody knows that. Even though it says he has the AR it should have an asterisks or something next to it because everyone knows my 10k was better... and if they don't know that then they're stupid."
No. He's there saying "Holy sh!t, Rupp just took my record and now I need to start working my ass off because I had a pretty terrible 2011 and it's time get my god damn record back." He's not making excuses arguing that he still has a faster 5k PR and he's still the better runner.
I'm a huge fan of both runners, but let's be real here. Solinsky ran his AR and stepped it up a notch. Rupp just answered with a great race against the worlds best and a 22 second PR. The ball is in Solinsky's court and until he answers, Rupp is the better 10k runner.
jesse was a friend wrote:
No, I have PROVED that he could have last summer. Obviously Rupp was not capable of 26:48 IF you go by your lousy logic. Don't you understand? Solinsky's 12:55 was superior to his 26:59 BECAUSE that day he could have run 26:48 BECAUSE he is a better 10000m runner than 5000m runner. So is Rupp. I am DONE with you morons.
You have PROVED that Solinsky "could" have run?!! Hahaha what a joke!
I will now prove that Rupp can win an Olympic medal. Then I will prove that Rupp can run a 12:54. Today he ran 26:48. Clearly he is in great shape. If he had run the 5000, he would have run it in 12:54.
There! I just did.
We don't really care what you think, FYI.
You seem to have a little trouble understanding the definition of the word "prove".
jesse please....the track at stanford is 10m short. i just proved it. therefore rupp's faster time is, well, faster.
26:48 > 26:59...nuff said
jesse was a friend,
Only one thing matters, absolute performance. Not coulda, not woulda and not shoulda.
Rupp has clearly had a better career than Solinksy at every level, only a simpleton or troll would argue this point. In your case I'm guessing simpleton.
jesse was a friend wrote:
No, I have PROVED that he could have last summer. Obviously Rupp was not capable of 26:48 IF you go by your lousy logic. Don't you understand? Solinsky's 12:55 was superior to his 26:59 BECAUSE that day he could have run 26:48 BECAUSE he is a better 10000m runner than 5000m runner. So is Rupp. I am DONE with you morons.
LOL, if you are so intelligent read again what you wrote here, that's ridiculous.
And 26:48 is superior to 12:55. It is the second best distance run by a non-african distance runner after Mottram's 8:03.50 Two Miles.
And what Solinsky could have, should have, would have run over 10k in 2010 is quite speculative because he didn't!
Why are you people arguing with this dude?
If leading is a requirement for a great race, then Rupps race vs. Solisnky where he re ran 27:11 was better than Sol's 26:58 because rupp led waaay more.
jesse was a friend wrote:
IF you consider that Galen Rupp never led a step of the race and that the race was in Brussels, where 18 of the fastest 29 10000m performances have been achieved, and that the race was on September 16th instead of May 1st, it is clear that Solinsky's race was as good. However, kudos to Galen Rupp, as I knew he'd likely break 27 one day, but still don't think he has proven he can match Solinsky's 5000 pb. This is NOT a big breakthrough effort. Solinsky could have run this fast last year. Having said that, way to go Galen Rupp. You will never run faster than today, but so what? You made the fanboys happy...