RUDISHA 1:41.33

Som was the 2nd rabbit. The guy who had to pace Rudisha from 400 to 600 m. Which apperently failed, also because Tangui opened too fast. So far this season Tangui proved himself to be a poor rabbit, always running too restless an in an uneven pace.

Rudisha wasn't going to beat his own WR.

For once Ventolin speaks sense... based on earlier performances, a sub 1:42 looked unlikely.

1:41.33 is a phenomenal performance.

Rudisha's AVERAGE 800 at Rieti over the past three seasons is now 1:41.35!

Good running by Kysczkot, lost in the background. Risely too, although it begs the question of a. what happened to him in mid-season and b. shouldn't he start thinking more seriously about the 800.

And bear this in mind. After early or mid-season injury disruptions, athletes who peak in the late season often have a great platform for building during the following year.

If he stays healthy, I would not be surprised to see the unthinkable from Rudisha next year.

His average in Rieti is 1:41,45 - but thats still really FAST.

Really bad pacemaking - could have been closer to his time from last year.

Over 30 years back 1:42 was broken for the first time, and still nobody has run under 1:41!!

said88 wrote:

His average in Rieti is 1:41,45 - but thats still really FAST.

Really bad pacemaking - could have been closer to his time from last year.

Over 30 years back 1:42 was broken for the first time, and still nobody has run under 1:41!!

Just underlines how good Coe's run was!

Deanouk wrote:

said88 wrote:

His average in Rieti is 1:41,45 - but thats still really FAST.

Really bad pacemaking - could have been closer to his time from last year.

Over 30 years back 1:42 was broken for the first time, and still nobody has run under 1:41!!

Just underlines how good Coe's run was!

Definitely! Way ahead of his time -one of THE great runs in history of track and field.

But still I think 30 years later 1:41 should have been broken that the level of the 800m record is closer to the other distance records.

said88 wrote:

Deanouk wrote:

Just underlines how good Coe's run was!

Definitely! Way ahead of his time -one of THE great runs in history of track and field.

But still I think 30 years later 1:41 should have been broken that the level of the 800m record is closer to the other distance records.

I think the current 800m record IS on a par with the 1500, 5000m & 10,000m!

The 800m is probably the most difficult distance to train for or to have the natural talent for. I think it's mislabeled as a mid-distance event as it's much more of a long sprint. The 800m is really the only event in which you'll have the rare athlete with elite 400m speed, so it's basically a crossover or transition event. Juantorena not only had elite 400/800 times..he won gold in both. Fiasconaro, who held the record before Juantorena, was also an elite 400m runner. I remember Mark Everett back in the 80s was also a 400/800 guy.

Of course this segues into the obvious question...a Letsrun favorite....when well Jeremy Wariner run the 800m?

Alan

Red Arrow wrote:

[quote]said88 wrote:

[quote]Deanouk wrote:

[quote]said88 wrote:

I think the current 800m record IS on a par with the 1500, 5000m & 10,000m!

I don`t think so.

said88 wrote:

record IS on a par with the 1500, 5000m & 10,000m!

I don`t think so.

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Fair enough, I respect your opinion. But it is based on 1 set of data (however impressive) that you have collated.

I would add that there are far more people running 800m around the world than 5 or 10k. Also, the longer the distance, the more variables come into play (e.g the pace has to be consistent for longer) which all need to be close to perfect to run at the maximum potential.

I think Coe once said after his 800 wr that you can get an accidental record at the 8, but not at the 15. It needs more careful planning.

I would also suggest that the use of EPO (names not necessary) in the late 90's/early 2000's would have more of an effect on the % improvement of an athlete the longer the distance.