Did Kennedy wait too long to test the marathon?

First he has to survive Dieter Hogan's training program. Pippig had to cheat to do that. If he gets to the line healthy I'm sure he's thinking 2:10 is possible since Mark Carrol was able to do that in 2002.

His bank account won't suffer too much either way.

Agreed, but Bob Kennedy does not run for the money. He runs to seek out his potential. To bad more Americans don't think that way.

2:06:48.99 sounds about right.

Where do you get 2:06 buddy. You need at least 27:20 10,000m speed and sub 1:01 for 1/2 to compute to a 2:06. Your dreaming. Maybe sub 2:09, most likely 2:10-2:12 debut. Ain't bad for American running considering the last 10 years of only a few decent world class marathon times in this country.

Bob should have run a marathon when he had a broken back. That would have been much better than waiting.

Buddy, if your going to talk BK and marathon talk. Talk seriously. Broken back. Stop talking shit.

I thought he fractured some vertabrea in a car accident. That's wrong?

Yeah, But Maybe said BK should run the marathon with a broken back. Read his post. He is talking shit.

You moron, that was me who said that. To all those who said that he has waiting too long I am saying "no, he should not have waited, he should have run earlier with a broken back" we call this type of speach "sarcasm", get it now?

Yay!

I struck a nerve with an idiot!

Now he's all frustrated. Watch him bark.

Back to the point. BK is getting older in the tooth but like a car accident, shit happens. I see 2:06 or better.

*and long in the tooth

English cannot possibly be your first language.

does any one have info on dieter hogan program

Get a copy of Richard Nerukar's Marathon Training book and you can see some specific training that he did under Hogan in Boulder before Atlanta.

Bob is not as fast or strong as Meb or Alan. Meb faded to a 2:12 in his debut for 2 reasons. 1. NY is a difficult course and 2. He attempted to win which was a sub 2:09.

If Kennedy attempts to run 2:09 or faster, he will suffer worse than Meb.

Alan chose to open at Chicago a much easier course and he attempted to run sub 2:10 (equivelant to a 2:12 at NY). This was attainable and he ran 2:09++.

If Kennedy attempts to run 2:12 he may have some success.

THERE IS ABSOLUTLY NO SCENARIO WHICH ALLOWS KENNEDY TO RUN ANY FASTER THAN THAT.

The other thing working against Bob is the mentality. Both Alan and Meb believed that the marathon might be their best event. Bob views the marathon as something that he can be competitive at after he has finished with his real event.

If Bob can handle the training, the program is very demanding, he will run extremly fast. he will have a terrific group to work with that will be aimimg for 2:08 ish in NY. Bob is just as talented as this group and will have much faster track pr's.

Hogen is the best coach in the world right now for the marathon and will make sure Bob does everything right

Kerry wants to cut running

Kerry wants to cut running 5/14/2004 11:15AM Reply | Return to Index | Report PostOK, here is an illustration about running and taxes that you should all understand.

What would you think if John Kerry (the democrat candidate for president) proposed this:

In all running events (be they 800m, 5k, 10k, marathon) the first three runners in the race should be forced to add minutes to their times. In fact, not just the first three, but really, the top 10% of runners in each race should be forced to have minutes added to their times. Then, runners in the the bottom 50% should have their times sliced in half. Then, and only then, should the race results be figured out.

Now, think about what I just said. Is that fair? That is what John Kerry wants to do with taxes. He wants to take money from those in the top 10% and give it to those in the bottom 50%.

You are fooling yourself if you don't see how these are the same thing.

Bush wants people at all levels of income to keep more of their own money. Using the above example, he wants the race results to be genuine, accurate, and fair.

Robert A. George

RE: Kerry wants to cut running 5/14/2004 11:22AM - in reply to Kerry wants to cut running Reply | Return to Index | Report PostWhat you just written is one of the most insanely, idiotic things that I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent reponse were you even close to anything that can be considered a rational thought. Everyone on this message board is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points and may God have mercy on your soul.

- Adapated from Billy Madison

Funny R A G

RE: Kerry wants to cut running 5/14/2004 11:25AM - in reply to Robert A. George Reply | Return to Index | Report PostThat was funny. But, why not try to make a logical arguement rather than quote Billy Madison.

You must be a back of the pack runner. You probably think that our taxes should be higher and that back of the packers should have their times inflated. Go ahead and vote for Kerry and watch all your money fly out of your pocket.

NativeSon

RE: Kerry wants to cut running 5/14/2004 11:25AM - in reply to Robert A. George Reply | Return to Index | Report PostAre u republican? Just asking. I am talking of the guy who posted the original Kerry 'idea.'

Kerry wants to cut running

RE: Kerry wants to cut running 5/14/2004 11:27AM - in reply to NativeSon Reply | Return to Index | Report PostOf course I am a Republican.

I think we all should be able to keep more of our own money and not have it taxed away from us.

john kerrry

RE: Kerry wants to cut running 5/14/2004 11:29AM - in reply to Robert A. George Reply | Return to Index | Report PostActually, what I want is for the original post to be dipped in roofing tar, rolled in broken glass, set ablaze, and shoved sideways up the original posters ass.

That is what I really want, and I will deliver come November.

BCG

RE: Kerry wants to cut running 5/14/2004 11:29AM - in reply to Kerry wants to cut running Reply | Return to Index | Report PostIsn't this a running message board?

Keep the right wing out of the West Wing.

Christian Conservative........

RE: Kerry wants to cut running 5/14/2004 11:29AM - in reply to NativeSon Reply | Return to Index | Report PostJohn Kerry got shot because he was too slow. George Bush could run loops around him and wipe out the terrorists at the same time.

Cynic

RE: Kerry wants to cut running 5/14/2004 11:29AM - in reply to Kerry wants to cut running Reply | Return to Index | Report PostRight.

Sure.

Well I personally have no problem if bill gates, larry ellison, bush 41, the kennedy's, the kerry's, paris hilton, et al have to pay some more.

...no problem for me at all.

If you REALLY believed what you wrote then you would be in favor of DESTROYING the current tax system, INSTALL A FLAT RATE ACROSS THE BOARD, NO DEDUCTIONS FOR REAL ESTATE BEYONE ONE PRIMARY RESIDENCE, ESTABLISH TERM LIMITS (hi there Robert Byrd...oh hey will someone get the Senator a drool cup please?), make English the national language (what's that? you have lived here 3, or 4, or 5 years and STILL cannot speak English? oh you got in and are avoiding cultural assimilation by DEMANDING schooling in your native tongue?), DEPORTATION OF ALL ILLEGAL ALIENS, yank our military out of Iraq & establish them at our nations' borders, USE WHATEVER FUNDS ARE NECESSARY TO COLD BLOODEDLY TRACK DOWN EVERY LAST SCUM-SUCKING, LOATHESOME MEMBER OF AL-QAEDA, rebuild our national infrastructure and build fuel efficient alternative vehicles to reduce our need for petroleum.

whew!

Sorry about that...just got cranked up a bit.

He didn't wait too long. Look at Carlos Lopes .. outkicked by Deke in about 2:08 at Rotterdam in 1983, wins in LA in 84, at about age 38. The larger point is that Lopes never had a kick (all slow twitch). BK is faster at 1500/5000, which to me means less marathon potential, regardless of what Africans have shown to be the contrary of late.