EZ10Miler wrote:
Yeah they were looking to jump out of the race. think about what you are saying.
Oh, I know it doesn't make any sense, but you can't argue with the facts: Solinsky got SHOVED out. Not tripped, SHOVED OUT by a guy that is 8 inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter, and then just inches from a camera gives this "aw shoot!" kind of look and just walks away. I'm not the only one who thinks this looks sketchy. It's crazy, but how do you explain it?
If Merga is known as a pusher then why do Rupp and Solinsky mess around at the back of the back next to him? Lagat was in great position and set an American record. He didn't have to worry about being pushed into the flowers because he was in good position. Learn to race and quit whining.
Here is the video for the race:
You could shove a 210lb Running back in the NFL going down the sidelines but just giving him a little shove. Doesnt take much to make you go sideways 6 inches and get knocked out of bounds in football, or into plants on the inside of a track.
common wrote:
EZ10Miler wrote:Yeah they were looking to jump out of the race. think about what you are saying.
Oh, I know it doesn't make any sense, but you can't argue with the facts: Solinsky got SHOVED out. Not tripped, SHOVED OUT by a guy that is 8 inches shorter and 50 pounds lighter, and then just inches from a camera gives this "aw shoot!" kind of look and just walks away. I'm not the only one who thinks this looks sketchy. It's crazy, but how do you explain it?
We explain to you that you are freaking idiot, at that pace, shoved into the plants, no one is getting back into the race...
You guys saying that Solinsky looked like he wanted to give up are all f*cking morons. There was 2 laps to go and he was 1-2 meters TOPS behind the leader. He wasn't expecting to be F*CKING HIPCHECKED into the infield and then IMPEDED BY BUSHES. It's one thing if he just got pushed onto the infield, he could have jumped back in. But when you actually run into something and stop... how are you going to hop back in and catch up in the last 2 laps of a race that was won in 12:53??? If I were him I would starting some shit with Merga after the race, but Solinksy is way more laid back than I am it seems.
dude merga didn't push rupp.. he was ahead of him! shut the f up
Seyta wrote:
There were only 2 reasons for either of them to enter the race:
-Place
-Time
Rupp was pushed down with 3 laps to go
Solinsky was pushed into a line of plants with 2 laps to go
You think its easy to lose ALL your momentum and get back into a 5000m race on the last 2-3 laps???
This is what I'm saying: place and time is all it's about, so when the pace went to 13+ and there's a pack of 15 guys racing out the last 3-4 laps in a pack, for Rupp and Sol, the race was a bust. A total waste of time and effort, so why finish? I don't LIKE it, but it is a plausible explanation for both of them getting "knocked out" by a tiny little punk-ass guy and not looking too put out by it.
grak wrote:
Under Ultra wrote:Solinsky looked like he was looking for a way out.
Bullsh** Solinsky got fouled and went off the track, hit some plants, etc. and was out of it; 5-6 steps back with two laps left is "out of the real racing"!!!!!!!
Look at the replay. Solinsky basically just walked off the track. Absolutely nothing happened at the moment he suddenly ran into a bunch of plants.
The contact happened 20 meters earlier and may have pissed off Solinsky, may have injured Solinsky, but DID NOT cause Solinsky to run off the track and have a transparently fake tantrum.
common wrote:
[quote]EZ10Miler wrote:
It's crazy, but how do you explain it?
Did you see the race? Someone shoves you when you arent expecting it and your rolling around the track in 62s... not too hard to get the other guy off the track. You are looking way way way too far into it. It is what it is- no conspiracy, just tough (dirty) racing by one guy. Just happens that the two USA runners got the $hitty end of the stick.
Alright, FVCK all you guys who are making excuses for Solinsky. WATCH THE VIDEO. Merga didn't push him! Merga is a stride clear of Solinsky, and Solinsky TRIPS OVER THIN AIR!!! Watch the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo7Kw-MJRts#t=0m16
Watch the video
Watch the video
He's no Billy Mills, that's for sure
Correct me if I'm wrong, but after three consecutive strides inside the white line--it doesn't matter how he got there--Sol's race was over.
Folks who try to spin this into some kind of ploy or mental schenannigans on Sol's part are delusional. He got knocked into the infield and his race was over. Not his fault. Even if he could pull a magical Viren-esque recovery, he was out of the race and his result wouldn't count.
Dude he pushes him and then moves over do to the fact that he is smaller. Look at your video. It happens right before he trips. Cause and effect me dear.
Koppenberg wrote:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but after three consecutive strides inside the white line--it doesn't matter how he got there--Sol's race was over.
Folks who try to spin this into some kind of ploy or mental schenannigans on Sol's part are delusional. He got knocked into the infield and his race was over. Not his fault. Even if he could pull a magical Viren-esque recovery, he was out of the race and his result wouldn't count.
I believe you're right, but that's not the point. I'm not arguing that he should have finished the race. I'm arguing about why he QUIT. He didn't get pushed out by anyone. He stumbled over thin air and stepped off the track! Watch the video.
I couldn't care less if he finishes the race, because he quit before he even stepped off the track. I wish there was video of Rupp's stumble, so we could see what his situation was, too.
Oh, I'm looking. Not seeing it. The guy in green (Merga) is a stride clear of Solinsky BEFORE Solinsky first stumbles. Merga's arms, body, hips, are clearly in front of Solinsky and in no way interfere with him.
Merga had nothing to do with Solinsky going out.
That's because Alamirew pushed him, genious
common wrote:
Oh, I'm looking. Not seeing it. The guy in green (Merga) is a stride clear of Solinsky BEFORE Solinsky first stumbles. Merga's arms, body, hips, are clearly in front of Solinsky and in no way interfere with him.
Merga had nothing to do with Solinsky going out.
No, you're the geniOus! Te he he!
I agree that it is pretty clearly *not* Merga. This is being discussed in the other thread. Alamirew, I think, someone in a black nike kit who is shielded from the camera by Merga in the video.
Alamirew was the 2nd push!