60sec 400=sub 5 min mile?

premyhero wrote:

If I have the speed to run a 60 shouldn't I be able to break 5?

Absolutely NO correlation whatsoever. I ran with a guy in college who was a DIII All-American in the 400 with a PR of 46.something. He couldn't break 5 minutes in the mile, and neither could all the 51 second 400 guys I ran with in high school.

For what it's worth, my best 400 (in high school - never tried one after that) was 53 and I ran 4:32 in the 1600 in high school.

Michael Bautista wrote:

400 is unrelated to 1600, it's too hard to tell, some can, some can't.

400 is unrelated to 1600? What the hell is this jackass talking about? Bautista is everywhere on this board, spouting off bullshit about this and that...usually kissing someone's ass.

400 IS related to 1600. 60 seconds for a quarter is certainly sufficient speed to break 5 for the mile. If you are running 60s and 5:01, you seriously lack aerobic capacity. Pick up any training book (Daniels, Lydiard, etc.) and you will be able to read you how can improve your aerobic capacity and run well under 5 minutes.

Its very hard to say. Right now, I could not break 60 for a quarter, but I could probably run a single 5:00 mile at the end of a 10 mile run. When I first ran faster than 5 min, I could probably have run 400m right around 60. The fastest I've ever run 400m is 57.9, and that year, I was running the mile a little under 4:40 fairly consistently. I do a lot of my running with a masters runner who at my age could only run about 57 or 58 for 400m, but ran 14:30 for 5K (about my mile race pace).

My former teammate could not break 60 for 400m to save his life. ( 62 PR ) Yet ran 4:37 mile, 51:10 for 10 miles, 2:23 Marathon.

I also know someone else who's all time mile PR was 5:06 yet ran 2:33 at the Boston Marathon.

Point being your talking slow twitch vs fast twitch fibers.

Yes, Should someone be able to break 5 minutes for the mile and still run sub 60 for 400m. In most cases yes, but it depends on the body type and what type of runner they are.

This is like asking a sub 11 second 100m runner can he break a 2:00 800m. Who the heck knows. Different distance and event.

Anyway why are we even talking about this stuff. Common sence. Besides 60 second 400m times and sub 5 minute mile are JR High Times.

3 years ago back in my HS days I had no legspeed (29-200)(63-400) (2:15-800)...but I always loved running the mile and two (4:45-1600) (10:25-3200). I have no speed, but have the most eundurance of anybody on my team...The 800 PR was set the week before..my first sub 2:20

I still have yet to break 2:15 in the 800---and I am a low 16 min 5k runner.

Just put your miles in and do your strides...

When I was in high school I could run about a 65. I ran a 4:58 mile. Now I can run a 64 (probably faster, never tried). I can run about a 4:36.

I've run 2 miles under 10 during periods when I could not break 60. Just worry about your strength at race pace not sprint speed. I would kill all of these 53 second speedsters on my team because I religiously ran long intervals (800-1600) and maximized my strength, without doing a lot of high mileage.

Lets end this thread. This has to be the most stupid thread ever. Who care's if you can or can not break 60 or sub 5:00.

these posts are rediculous!

if i can run this then can i run this? SHUT UP

just go outside and run a mile. if you can run around 5 min, then maybe you can do it in a meet.

i can run a 47 sec 400, and a 1:50 800.......but i have never run under 5 min in the mile.

i once ran a 5:10 in practice, and as a freshman in h.s. i ran a 5:30. so if you want an answer - NO!!!!!! if you can run a 60, it does not mean you can run sub 5.

i couldn't do it, so you can't either!

Hey Pal, I could feel the anger coming from you right thru my computer screen. Chill out.

With the proper aerobic fitness you should be able to do it, just build up and get strong man. Im a sophmore in High school right now, and with 61.8 second quarter speed(from this season of outdoor), I was able to run 2:10 and 4:53, just keep putting in the miles, and run some 3200's to help with your strength, good luck.

I can run a 4:22 mile, but my p.r. is only 58 in the 400

I head that Al Sal couldn't break 56 but could break 4.

hey fellows, shut up and eat horseshit. I ran it today by myself and ran a 5:02.

36

73

2:27

3:46

5:02

eat a bag

Wow - Your so Fast. A 5:02 is a time I could run in elementry school you slow bastard. Your bragging about a 5:02 mile. I suggest you pick up another sport. Track ain't it for you. Slow bastard.

slow bastard, i not slow i just started, you are probably an adult with no life looking on this web site to compare dick sizes,and you probably dont even have one. you are probably out of college and have notin to run for so go on and cry now lil bitch

This is the stupidest thread ever. Someone who runs 1:50 and can't break 5? Or "I can't break 60 but have ran sub 4:30". This is a bunch of bull. There must be some big pussies here or people that like to brag to the point of lying about their slowness to show how "tough" they are or something. I was a 10K guy all the way in college and still ran a 57 split in HS after 2 800s the same day and ran 4:37 that season. What does this prove? Jack!

Yeah this is ridiculous. I run 54, 2:02, 4:45, and even with 54 speed the mile isn't a relaxed race based on endurance come lap 3 and 4. My guess is that no one that can not break 60 can go sub-5. Keep in mind some people may have a 61 second PR and a 4:40 PR but simply because the 61 was a fluke. 5:10 is more realistic for someone with 60 second speed. Where you will cut the 20 seconds off is with light speedwork several days before a your race your 1600m. No sub-5 miler I know can't break 60 in the 400m.

i have a 59 400, but my mile time is 4:47.